wow you talk as if you know this for a fact or something :D which you OBVIOUSLY doesn't

and he was right, your imagining things, he never said digital dl will be more than retail, admit it, it was a mistake on your part..silly one but still a mistake, can happen to anyone so yeah...let's all move along

Yeah well I'd like numbers because what you think isn't necessarily the truth. You can't blame me for not trusting a forum user on the internet without a real proof :)

I just say no one knows the sales of PSP games on the PS Store. It might be bad or might be more than people think. That's why I say we can't judge just by looking at retail sales.

The same thing goes for PC sales. You can't only look at retail sales since most games are available on Steam or something else.

This is on a SOny platform..such logic doesn't apply here for some..and yea notice something funny? another non stop huge back forth argument with the same person regarding sony as it was in several threads already...just ignore him

Blur was a bigger bomb to me, especially when you factor in it's awesomeness. Best racing game so far this year, and certainly the most unique even if it doesn't win best. You factor in the public beta, commercials, and even I got a 20$ off coupon after participating the beta.

Yeah, it bombed hard.

Er... what?  Did you or did you not say that you didn't think download sales at least matched peacewalkers sales.

Your just being illogical because you don't want to admit the game bombed... hard.

Though we do have numbers from Sony.... in a way.  Last time they mentioned digital sales they said they were less then a third of retail.  This was for the PS3... which had a much bigger harddrive.

You remind me of those people who still think OJ Simpson is innocent.  "Well nobody actually SAW him stab them!"  I'm just saying we can't judge someone unless we actually see them stabbed.

Digital download sales are going to be proportional to retail sales.

Therefore if it's a retail bomb.. it's digital download bomb.

do you know how long it was in development for?

Well, I can assure you that many people downloaded the game not on PS store though.

It's really sad that MGS:PW didn't even make to the top 20. It shows you how grave the Piracy situation on the PSP is. Not even a Metal Gear is safe from pirates. Really really sad about this. If this keeps up a lot of Japanese games that I like won't even be localized.

No I didn't. You can go back and read again if you really want to prove me wrong.

Really? I'm illogical yet you're the one inventing stuff. I think you're just trying to provoke me at this point which is what I call baiting. I don't know why you're doing that. It's childish and it creates empty argumentations about irrelevant stuff.

Why would you seperate them? They go together.

I'm just being realistic as we do not have any numbers for digital sales. We includes me and you. You don't have them either unless you're working at Sony or something and you're keeping secret datas for yourself?

I wish people would be more mature. Many good users left or are much less here because of such behavior from other users. It's not healthy for a community and vgchartz has been pretty weak since 3.0

Oh well, some people are never wrong.

I'm not "inventing" anything.  I'm using basic logic known from past trends.

While you are clinging on to a "we don't know 100% for certain" arguement that's based on nothing but hope.

Just like OJ.  We can't be "100%" of his guilt... but we have plenty of information to asertain that is very likely the possibility.

If you'd like a rephrase fine...  "It's far far more likely then not that MGS Peace Walker bombed then it not bombing."

They wanted at least 3 million sales at the end of it's life.

That'd mean that the download sales likely would have to be like 1-2 times the retail sales.   Which is... just a laughable suggestion.

It's not going to carry to 3 million at this point unless that was the case.