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Kratos_36 on 08 July 2010

Well if you look at the today released   EMEAA sales than I don't see to much interest in the new 360 here in Europe. Most of my friend still don't even know that it exist. So Europe won't give 2 shits about the 360 slim.

Kinect is btw priced at most shops for 150 euro which is converted about... 150 dollars :D. I'm also having the feeling that retailers don't trust it to much because I don't see any advertising. The Ps3 Slim hype rages on here and every month at least 4 more people I know buy a Ps3. So MS is really losing ground here.



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joeorc on 08 July 2010
Killiana1a said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
Killiana1a said:

As I stated earlier in this thread, Sony took a $4.7 billion loss from when the PS3 was released until it started becoming profitable, which was around 2009.

That $4.7 billion was a real cost incurred by Sony and until they manage to recoup that $4.7 billion and then some from Walkman sales, television sales, or whatever, then the PS3 cannot be considered a worthwile, profitable venture that beckons a PS4.

All of that profit the PS3 is making now is what Accounting 101 calls a "credit" and that $4.7 billion loss is what Accounting 101 calls a "debit." Sony has a lot of credits to make from the PS3 in order to remove the parentheses from the red (4.7) billion.

I am just wondering what kind of uninformed investor invests in companies such as Sony who have shown with the PS3, that they are willing to take a $4.7 billion loss and still have another $5 billion loss via the PS4 in the next 5 years?

Now, I am assuming: 1. There will be a PS4 and 2. Sony and Kaz Hirai will try to 1up Nintendo and Microsoft by putting out another overpriced vanity machine (PS4) at a price all except the most fervent of Sony supporters will not buy.

I don't wish death on Sony as I have been a consumer of their product in my younger years, I just wish they would own up to their past mistakes, chop some heads off in their company, and get back to the basics by prioritizing what products are making a profit, continue to make those profitable products, and shut down the products and company divisions who are running at a loss, while being subsidized by the more profitable product divisions.

YET MORE DIATRIBE: LOL....

Playstation does not just = the PS3

yes let's just to choose to ignore the PSP profit's, the PS2 profit's and software from those 2 other platform's including the PS3 software profit's and PSN digital sales and the profit's from Home, and now PSN plus.....

PSP,PS2,PSN,PSN(PLUS),Home,psp software, PS2 software,ps3 software

is greater than just the

"PS3"

Actually, those were all considered and accounted for, he's talking SCE's overall loss.  In a very real sense just the "PS3" was greater than "PSP,PS2,PSN,PSN(PLUS),Home,psp software, PS2 software,ps3 software" in terms of loss/profit.

We'll never know the real scale of PS3's massive hardware losses because as you pointed out, those profitable sectors were helping pull up the division...

no it's not!

read what he stated! he's not talking about their entire profit's, he was just talking about the PS2's peak sales year's for the PAST 5 year's

" Sony has lost more money selling PlayStation 3s than it made selling PlayStation 2s during the entire five years of its peak."

the profit's that The PS3 ate into was the profit's for the PS2 for the last 5 year's when he made that statement  5 year's is not the entire profit's for the PS2 all together:

Hell he's not even including the PS1 or the PSP.

he's trying to point out just one aspect of the situation to say it = the entire profit loss of the entire playstation platform which is not true at all.

One product in their catalog does not = the entire catalog's sale's/profit's if there is more than just one product

the PS1's which had 10 year's worth of sales, the PSP now over 6 year

just because you want to concentrate on just one product does not mean you just ignore the other's in the catalog!

and why would they not help, their still playstation product's!

The PS3 is now profitable on it's own, now Sony has 3 Playstation Hardware Product's on the market that sell @ a profit!

How words get convoluted for a variety of reasons.

The numbers I have seen and which have been posted here ad nauseam include all the profits from PS1, PS2, PSP, and PS3. Fact is, and Sony consumers may not like to hear it,the PS3 has been an unprofitable venture from a company who could afford to take the loss. Any better run company or smaller company would have never taken on a project as ambitious as the PS3.

My gist is what happened 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. and 10 years ago factors into the discussion when we are talking dollars and cents, which companies base business decisions off of. You may see reports saying "Sony PS3 is finally making a Profit" or some sort, but that is always in comparison to the costs and profits incurred earlier to make it a profitable machine now.

Like it or not, by the time the PS4 rolls around, if Sony has the money to take another loss, the sheer amount of dollars and mantime put into creating the PS3 will be remembered by the execs at Sony and they will make their decision accordingly.

where is the number's?

it's been the same post about Sony loosing all the profit's of the ps1, ps2, psp?

where is the proof.

I have not seen it....

hell the one who stated that is just guessing unless he's seen all the data from their finacial's.

which we can guess ourselves is a BIG FAT NO.

so the constant Diatribe is getting a little silly on this site...



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

joeorc on 08 July 2010
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
Killiana1a said:

As I stated earlier in this thread, Sony took a $4.7 billion loss from when the PS3 was released until it started becoming profitable, which was around 2009.

That $4.7 billion was a real cost incurred by Sony and until they manage to recoup that $4.7 billion and then some from Walkman sales, television sales, or whatever, then the PS3 cannot be considered a worthwile, profitable venture that beckons a PS4.

All of that profit the PS3 is making now is what Accounting 101 calls a "credit" and that $4.7 billion loss is what Accounting 101 calls a "debit." Sony has a lot of credits to make from the PS3 in order to remove the parentheses from the red (4.7) billion.

I am just wondering what kind of uninformed investor invests in companies such as Sony who have shown with the PS3, that they are willing to take a $4.7 billion loss and still have another $5 billion loss via the PS4 in the next 5 years?

Now, I am assuming: 1. There will be a PS4 and 2. Sony and Kaz Hirai will try to 1up Nintendo and Microsoft by putting out another overpriced vanity machine (PS4) at a price all except the most fervent of Sony supporters will not buy.

I don't wish death on Sony as I have been a consumer of their product in my younger years, I just wish they would own up to their past mistakes, chop some heads off in their company, and get back to the basics by prioritizing what products are making a profit, continue to make those profitable products, and shut down the products and company divisions who are running at a loss, while being subsidized by the more profitable product divisions.

YET MORE DIATRIBE: LOL....

Playstation does not just = the PS3

yes let's just to choose to ignore the PSP profit's, the PS2 profit's and software from those 2 other platform's including the PS3 software profit's and PSN digital sales and the profit's from Home, and now PSN plus.....

PSP,PS2,PSN,PSN(PLUS),Home,psp software, PS2 software,ps3 software

is greater than just the

"PS3"

Actually, those were all considered and accounted for, he's talking SCE's overall loss.  In a very real sense just the "PS3" was greater than "PSP,PS2,PSN,PSN(PLUS),Home,psp software, PS2 software,ps3 software" in terms of loss/profit.

We'll never know the real scale of PS3's massive hardware losses because as you pointed out, those profitable sectors were helping pull up the division...

no it's not!

read what he stated! he's not talking about their entire profit's, he was just talking about the PS2's peak sales year's for the PAST 5 year's

" Sony has lost more money selling PlayStation 3s than it made selling PlayStation 2s during the entire five years of its peak."

the profit's that The PS3 ate into was the profit's for the PS2 for the last 5 year's when he made that statement  5 year's is not the entire profit's for the PS2 all together:

Hell he's not even including the PS1 or the PSP.

he's trying to point out just one aspect of the situation to say it = the entire profit loss of the entire playstation platform which is not true at all.

One product in their catalog does not = the entire catalog's sale's/profit's if there is more than just one product

the PS1's which had 10 year's worth of sales, the PSP now over 6 year

just because you want to concentrate on just one product does not mean you just ignore the other's in the catalog!

and why would they not help, their still playstation product's!

The PS3 is now profitable on it's own, now Sony has 3 Playstation Hardware Product's on the market that sell @ a profit!

Er... you don't seem to grasp though, PSP, PS2, etc are automatically figured in given he's using division profit/loss figures from SCE.  That $4.7B loss figure he's throwing out?  That already has PSP's profits, and PS2's concurrent profits, and any profit from PS3 software/HOME/etc figured into it.  The truth is PS3 lost SCE far more than $4.7B.  PS3 has actually lost more than PS2 and PSP ever made (and also counting PS1's latter 5 years of pure profits), all combined.   Forget PS2's "peak years", PS3 has lost that and then some.

If we only had SCE figures from 93/94/95/96, we could judge if the PlayStation division has been profitable or not overall... going from 97-on though it's already close to a loss overall.

no he's not read what he stated..he was talking about just the last 5 year's of the PS2..that was stated in 2008..he was not even talking about the PS1 or the PSP..

and as for this:

That $4.7B loss figure he's throwing out?  That already has PSP's profits, and PS2's concurrent profits, and any profit from PS3 software/HOME/etc figured into it.

no it's not for one he's taking a guess, and second Sony has stated the Playstation platform as a whole has sold over 50 billion @ retail...so keep dreaming

so even taking into account the PEAK sales of othe PS2 that does not still take into account for the other profit's generated by the PS1 and PSP and part of the PS2's ...there is no way it does since sony has stated they Sold over 50 Billion

yes that's not all profit, but still come on.!

lol.  The only one dreaming here the person clinging to PR and ignoring IR. ;)

I'd suggest you take a quick look in this thread.  The numbers aren't perfect, they're a hell of a lot more accurate than "50 billion @ retail".

than how come sony stated it was?

sony was not telling the truth!



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

joeorc on 08 July 2010
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
Killiana1a said:

As I stated earlier in this thread, Sony took a $4.7 billion loss from when the PS3 was released until it started becoming profitable, which was around 2009.

That $4.7 billion was a real cost incurred by Sony and until they manage to recoup that $4.7 billion and then some from Walkman sales, television sales, or whatever, then the PS3 cannot be considered a worthwile, profitable venture that beckons a PS4.

All of that profit the PS3 is making now is what Accounting 101 calls a "credit" and that $4.7 billion loss is what Accounting 101 calls a "debit." Sony has a lot of credits to make from the PS3 in order to remove the parentheses from the red (4.7) billion.

I am just wondering what kind of uninformed investor invests in companies such as Sony who have shown with the PS3, that they are willing to take a $4.7 billion loss and still have another $5 billion loss via the PS4 in the next 5 years?

Now, I am assuming: 1. There will be a PS4 and 2. Sony and Kaz Hirai will try to 1up Nintendo and Microsoft by putting out another overpriced vanity machine (PS4) at a price all except the most fervent of Sony supporters will not buy.

I don't wish death on Sony as I have been a consumer of their product in my younger years, I just wish they would own up to their past mistakes, chop some heads off in their company, and get back to the basics by prioritizing what products are making a profit, continue to make those profitable products, and shut down the products and company divisions who are running at a loss, while being subsidized by the more profitable product divisions.

YET MORE DIATRIBE: LOL....

Playstation does not just = the PS3

yes let's just to choose to ignore the PSP profit's, the PS2 profit's and software from those 2 other platform's including the PS3 software profit's and PSN digital sales and the profit's from Home, and now PSN plus.....

PSP,PS2,PSN,PSN(PLUS),Home,psp software, PS2 software,ps3 software

is greater than just the

"PS3"

Actually, those were all considered and accounted for, he's talking SCE's overall loss.  In a very real sense just the "PS3" was greater than "PSP,PS2,PSN,PSN(PLUS),Home,psp software, PS2 software,ps3 software" in terms of loss/profit.

We'll never know the real scale of PS3's massive hardware losses because as you pointed out, those profitable sectors were helping pull up the division...

no it's not!

read what he stated! he's not talking about their entire profit's, he was just talking about the PS2's peak sales year's for the PAST 5 year's

" Sony has lost more money selling PlayStation 3s than it made selling PlayStation 2s during the entire five years of its peak."

the profit's that The PS3 ate into was the profit's for the PS2 for the last 5 year's when he made that statement  5 year's is not the entire profit's for the PS2 all together:

Hell he's not even including the PS1 or the PSP.

he's trying to point out just one aspect of the situation to say it = the entire profit loss of the entire playstation platform which is not true at all.

One product in their catalog does not = the entire catalog's sale's/profit's if there is more than just one product

the PS1's which had 10 year's worth of sales, the PSP now over 6 year

just because you want to concentrate on just one product does not mean you just ignore the other's in the catalog!

and why would they not help, their still playstation product's!

The PS3 is now profitable on it's own, now Sony has 3 Playstation Hardware Product's on the market that sell @ a profit!

Er... you don't seem to grasp though, PSP, PS2, etc are automatically figured in given he's using division profit/loss figures from SCE.  That $4.7B loss figure he's throwing out?  That already has PSP's profits, and PS2's concurrent profits, and any profit from PS3 software/HOME/etc figured into it.  The truth is PS3 lost SCE far more than $4.7B.  PS3 has actually lost more than PS2 and PSP ever made (and also counting PS1's latter 5 years of pure profits), all combined.   Forget PS2's "peak years", PS3 has lost that and then some.

If we only had SCE figures from 93/94/95/96, we could judge if the PlayStation division has been profitable or not overall... going from 97-on though it's already close to a loss overall.

no he's not read what he stated..he was talking about just the last 5 year's of the PS2..that was stated in 2008..he was not even talking about the PS1 or the PSP..

and as for this:

That $4.7B loss figure he's throwing out?  That already has PSP's profits, and PS2's concurrent profits, and any profit from PS3 software/HOME/etc figured into it.

no it's not for one he's taking a guess, and second Sony has stated the Playstation platform as a whole has sold over 50 billion @ retail...so keep dreaming

so even taking into account the PEAK sales of othe PS2 that does not still take into account for the other profit's generated by the PS1 and PSP and part of the PS2's ...there is no way it does since sony has stated they Sold over 50 Billion

yes that's not all profit, but still come on.!

lol.  The only one dreaming here the person clinging to PR and ignoring IR. ;)

I'd suggest you take a quick look in this thread.  The numbers aren't perfect, they're a hell of a lot more accurate than "50 billion @ retail".

than how come sony stated it was?

sony was not telling the truth?

Also that Data does not go back 10 year's!

Sony stated official in print that they have sold over 50 billion @ retail for the entire playstation platform.

yea anyone can just point out one part of companies platform to make it look bad good for you and other's it seem's that's what you do all the time on here you must Love Sony alot since you seem to alway's want to point out any an all Negative THING'S Sony.

Sony Lover..we gotcha Now..a love Hate relationship..you love them More than you love Nintendo, Amazing Keep up the Good Work. your only Helping Sony by pointing out their Flaw's.

Like i stated where is all of the Data...do you have it, does this Site have that?

because i have never seen any Data claiming the PS3 took all of the profit's:

from the PS1,PSP.PS2 LET ALONE ADDING IN THE Software sales, the Playstation Software from each of those platform's.

and that's not including the PS3 software, PSN Game's,Movies,Music,Now Plus, and now Blu-Ray!

 





I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

Killiana1a on 08 July 2010
joeorc said:
Killiana1a said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
Killiana1a said:

As I stated earlier in this thread, Sony took a $4.7 billion loss from when the PS3 was released until it started becoming profitable, which was around 2009.

That $4.7 billion was a real cost incurred by Sony and until they manage to recoup that $4.7 billion and then some from Walkman sales, television sales, or whatever, then the PS3 cannot be considered a worthwile, profitable venture that beckons a PS4.

All of that profit the PS3 is making now is what Accounting 101 calls a "credit" and that $4.7 billion loss is what Accounting 101 calls a "debit." Sony has a lot of credits to make from the PS3 in order to remove the parentheses from the red (4.7) billion.

I am just wondering what kind of uninformed investor invests in companies such as Sony who have shown with the PS3, that they are willing to take a $4.7 billion loss and still have another $5 billion loss via the PS4 in the next 5 years?

Now, I am assuming: 1. There will be a PS4 and 2. Sony and Kaz Hirai will try to 1up Nintendo and Microsoft by putting out another overpriced vanity machine (PS4) at a price all except the most fervent of Sony supporters will not buy.

I don't wish death on Sony as I have been a consumer of their product in my younger years, I just wish they would own up to their past mistakes, chop some heads off in their company, and get back to the basics by prioritizing what products are making a profit, continue to make those profitable products, and shut down the products and company divisions who are running at a loss, while being subsidized by the more profitable product divisions.

YET MORE DIATRIBE: LOL....

Playstation does not just = the PS3

yes let's just to choose to ignore the PSP profit's, the PS2 profit's and software from those 2 other platform's including the PS3 software profit's and PSN digital sales and the profit's from Home, and now PSN plus.....

PSP,PS2,PSN,PSN(PLUS),Home,psp software, PS2 software,ps3 software

is greater than just the

"PS3"

Actually, those were all considered and accounted for, he's talking SCE's overall loss.  In a very real sense just the "PS3" was greater than "PSP,PS2,PSN,PSN(PLUS),Home,psp software, PS2 software,ps3 software" in terms of loss/profit.

We'll never know the real scale of PS3's massive hardware losses because as you pointed out, those profitable sectors were helping pull up the division...

no it's not!

read what he stated! he's not talking about their entire profit's, he was just talking about the PS2's peak sales year's for the PAST 5 year's

" Sony has lost more money selling PlayStation 3s than it made selling PlayStation 2s during the entire five years of its peak."

the profit's that The PS3 ate into was the profit's for the PS2 for the last 5 year's when he made that statement  5 year's is not the entire profit's for the PS2 all together:

Hell he's not even including the PS1 or the PSP.

he's trying to point out just one aspect of the situation to say it = the entire profit loss of the entire playstation platform which is not true at all.

One product in their catalog does not = the entire catalog's sale's/profit's if there is more than just one product

the PS1's which had 10 year's worth of sales, the PSP now over 6 year

just because you want to concentrate on just one product does not mean you just ignore the other's in the catalog!

and why would they not help, their still playstation product's!

The PS3 is now profitable on it's own, now Sony has 3 Playstation Hardware Product's on the market that sell @ a profit!

How words get convoluted for a variety of reasons.

The numbers I have seen and which have been posted here ad nauseam include all the profits from PS1, PS2, PSP, and PS3. Fact is, and Sony consumers may not like to hear it,the PS3 has been an unprofitable venture from a company who could afford to take the loss. Any better run company or smaller company would have never taken on a project as ambitious as the PS3.

My gist is what happened 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. and 10 years ago factors into the discussion when we are talking dollars and cents, which companies base business decisions off of. You may see reports saying "Sony PS3 is finally making a Profit" or some sort, but that is always in comparison to the costs and profits incurred earlier to make it a profitable machine now.

Like it or not, by the time the PS4 rolls around, if Sony has the money to take another loss, the sheer amount of dollars and mantime put into creating the PS3 will be remembered by the execs at Sony and they will make their decision accordingly.

where is the number's?

it's been the same post about Sony loosing all the profit's of the ps1, ps2, psp?

where is the proof.

I have not seen it....

hell the one who stated that is just guessing unless he's seen all the data from their finacial's.

which we can guess ourselves is a BIG FAT NO.

so the constant Diatribe is getting a little silly on this site...

Your constant defending of Sony as if you are working for them or have a major investment stake is getting old and silly. Seriously though, we will see come the next generation whenever that occurs. All this debate is just speculation and since you are not posting their financials, then you do not have an "in" with them or you may and the picture may be just as bad as some of us who have looked at a few of their financials know it is.



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joeorc on 08 July 2010
Killiana1a said:
joeorc said:
Killiana1a said:
joeorc said:
jarrod said:
joeorc said:
Killiana1a said:

As I stated earlier in this thread, Sony took a $4.7 billion loss from when the PS3 was released until it started becoming profitable, which was around 2009.

That $4.7 billion was a real cost incurred by Sony and until they manage to recoup that $4.7 billion and then some from Walkman sales, television sales, or whatever, then the PS3 cannot be considered a worthwile, profitable venture that beckons a PS4.

All of that profit the PS3 is making now is what Accounting 101 calls a "credit" and that $4.7 billion loss is what Accounting 101 calls a "debit." Sony has a lot of credits to make from the PS3 in order to remove the parentheses from the red (4.7) billion.

I am just wondering what kind of uninformed investor invests in companies such as Sony who have shown with the PS3, that they are willing to take a $4.7 billion loss and still have another $5 billion loss via the PS4 in the next 5 years?

Now, I am assuming: 1. There will be a PS4 and 2. Sony and Kaz Hirai will try to 1up Nintendo and Microsoft by putting out another overpriced vanity machine (PS4) at a price all except the most fervent of Sony supporters will not buy.

I don't wish death on Sony as I have been a consumer of their product in my younger years, I just wish they would own up to their past mistakes, chop some heads off in their company, and get back to the basics by prioritizing what products are making a profit, continue to make those profitable products, and shut down the products and company divisions who are running at a loss, while being subsidized by the more profitable product divisions.

YET MORE DIATRIBE: LOL....

Playstation does not just = the PS3

yes let's just to choose to ignore the PSP profit's, the PS2 profit's and software from those 2 other platform's including the PS3 software profit's and PSN digital sales and the profit's from Home, and now PSN plus.....

PSP,PS2,PSN,PSN(PLUS),Home,psp software, PS2 software,ps3 software

is greater than just the

"PS3"

Actually, those were all considered and accounted for, he's talking SCE's overall loss.  In a very real sense just the "PS3" was greater than "PSP,PS2,PSN,PSN(PLUS),Home,psp software, PS2 software,ps3 software" in terms of loss/profit.

We'll never know the real scale of PS3's massive hardware losses because as you pointed out, those profitable sectors were helping pull up the division...

no it's not!

read what he stated! he's not talking about their entire profit's, he was just talking about the PS2's peak sales year's for the PAST 5 year's

" Sony has lost more money selling PlayStation 3s than it made selling PlayStation 2s during the entire five years of its peak."

the profit's that The PS3 ate into was the profit's for the PS2 for the last 5 year's when he made that statement  5 year's is not the entire profit's for the PS2 all together:

Hell he's not even including the PS1 or the PSP.

he's trying to point out just one aspect of the situation to say it = the entire profit loss of the entire playstation platform which is not true at all.

One product in their catalog does not = the entire catalog's sale's/profit's if there is more than just one product

the PS1's which had 10 year's worth of sales, the PSP now over 6 year

just because you want to concentrate on just one product does not mean you just ignore the other's in the catalog!

and why would they not help, their still playstation product's!

The PS3 is now profitable on it's own, now Sony has 3 Playstation Hardware Product's on the market that sell @ a profit!

How words get convoluted for a variety of reasons.

The numbers I have seen and which have been posted here ad nauseam include all the profits from PS1, PS2, PSP, and PS3. Fact is, and Sony consumers may not like to hear it,the PS3 has been an unprofitable venture from a company who could afford to take the loss. Any better run company or smaller company would have never taken on a project as ambitious as the PS3.

My gist is what happened 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. and 10 years ago factors into the discussion when we are talking dollars and cents, which companies base business decisions off of. You may see reports saying "Sony PS3 is finally making a Profit" or some sort, but that is always in comparison to the costs and profits incurred earlier to make it a profitable machine now.

Like it or not, by the time the PS4 rolls around, if Sony has the money to take another loss, the sheer amount of dollars and mantime put into creating the PS3 will be remembered by the execs at Sony and they will make their decision accordingly.

where is the number's?

it's been the same post about Sony loosing all the profit's of the ps1, ps2, psp?

where is the proof.

I have not seen it....

hell the one who stated that is just guessing unless he's seen all the data from their finacial's.

which we can guess ourselves is a BIG FAT NO.

so the constant Diatribe is getting a little silly on this site...

Your constant defending of Sony as if you are working for them or have a major investment stake is getting old and silly. Seriously though, we will see come the next generation whenever that occurs. All this debate is just speculation and since you are not posting their financials, then you do not have an "in" with them or you may and the picture may be just as bad as some of us who have looked at a few of their financials know it is.

How am i defending?

I am stating that people are posting statememnt's that have no factual basis.

I am not the One claiming that the PS3 has ate the entire profit's of the PS1, PSP,PS2 like some here are saying 10 plus year's worth of profit!

come on now!



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

DirtyP2002 on 08 July 2010
FonzGemini said:

Next gen of consoles MS will move on from the 360 and wont look back. Sony on the other hand will continue to support the PS3 well into the PS4's life cycle. That is why PS3 will pass 360 in lifetime sales.



source?

Sony will stop supporting the PS3 immediately after the release of the PS4.

Source: Me.

 

 



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

Reach on 08 July 2010

LOL 360 is profitable MS wont drop it... get over it.



joeorc on 08 July 2010
DirtyP2002 said:
FonzGemini said:

Next gen of consoles MS will move on from the 360 and wont look back. Sony on the other hand will continue to support the PS3 well into the PS4's life cycle. That is why PS3 will pass 360 in lifetime sales.



source?

Sony will stop supporting the PS3 immediately after the release of the PS4.

Source: Me.

 

 

if that was the Case they would have stopped support on the PS1 after the PS2 or the PS2 after the PS3..

BUT..BUT..Sony is not the market Leader?

So what if their not...

when the PS4 releases the fact that the PS3 has over 35 million PS3's in the market ,Mean's Sony will stop the support on the PS3 when even when the New PS4 get's released?

riight.,.your thinking of another company that has showed that capability and it sure is not Sony.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

DirtyP2002 on 08 July 2010
joeorc said:
DirtyP2002 said:
FonzGemini said:

Next gen of consoles MS will move on from the 360 and wont look back. Sony on the other hand will continue to support the PS3 well into the PS4's life cycle. That is why PS3 will pass 360 in lifetime sales.



source?

Sony will stop supporting the PS3 immediately after the release of the PS4.

Source: Me.

 

 

if that was the Case they would have stopped support on the PS1 after the PS2 or the PS2 after the PS3..

BUT..BUT..Sony is not the market Leader?

So what if their not...

when the PS4 releases the fact that the PS3 has over 35 million PS3's in the market ,Mean's Sony will stop the support on the PS3 when even when the New PS4 get's released?

riight.,.your thinking of another company that has showed that capability and it sure is not Sony.


I was joking actually, because nobody knows what will happen after a new gen starts like he stated. He assumed things without any kind of source. So did I.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...