Everyone wants the Elite. People might settle with the Arcade because of price, but the masses want the Elite. So when it hits $200 you can expect a huge sales boost. Especially if MS does the price cut before Sony.

no the masses don't care about elit,they care about the games whihc are playable on Arcade.

yes $200 will have a big boost but not as big as you think as people already have ARCADE's

Also, I think a $99 Arcade will be huge. I just noticed the Gamecube saw its best sales at $99. The Original Xbox saw its best sales when it went under $200. Almost 50% was sold at $149. I think the 360 will follow suit.

$99 arcade would be big but MS won't do it for now and if they do $149 first and then $99 then it won't have much boost.

Gamecube had its best sales at $99 but it wasn't selling at a higher price thats why.and even XBOX wasn't selling at the higher price and that the entire generation was low priced.

this generation has been high priced and even then people bought the console,it isn't that just because of the lower price people will buy 2-3 360'S

Do the math. The Move starter kit is $99. The navigation controller is $30. Some games seem to require 2 Move controllers. That'll be another $50 for that experience. And if you want to play multiplayer, you'll need more Move controllers.

you can use DS3 as NAV

I don't need to buy MOVE STARTER bundle as i already have an EYE.

Only one MOVE

and those some games requiring 2 MOVE controller will be rare so don't push it

And for the game,i am already buying LBP,SOCOM,SORCERY,KILLZONE so why should i buy it

Multiplayer is your problem as nobody in my home plays so i won't need more controllers.also like Wii people will buy more controllers

also KINECT can't take more than 2 people at a time

so thats just $40 for a MOVE controller as i will be buying in Europe where it is cheaper and it will be more discounted on sites like AMAZON

The Kinect on the other hand will most likely be under $150. My guess is more like $120. And you don't need any more accessories and multiplayer can be played on a single device. The Kinect seems like a bargain in comparison.

how is it a bargain?????????? 

also don't forget that MOVE will have alot more games and better ones for all genres

also MOVE price was  affected by MS disappointing conference.

MOVE is cheaper in EU,JAPAN and

MOVE can also get a price cut as it costs alot less that its price to make

Well I'm just saying the Wii can still have a negative impact on PS3 sales. Especially considering their motion devices are very much the same.

the impact will be no greater than current one MOVE can only benefit

Well did they really need to counteract immediately? The Xbox 360 had huge sales last year. They are still millions ahead of the PS3. Most importantly the 360 was likely sold at a profit. We know Sony was taking a hit for each PS3 sold.

they are still 5million ahead even after being cheaper

yes 360 had huge sales but not bigger than PS3

how is it important that 360 was making a profit when we are discussing sales,stop bullshiting

Now its 2010. The 360 Slim has been released with no price and its selling like hot cakes.

you are talking as if 360 has been selling like hotcakes whole of 2010 till now.............lol

its just been 2 weeks and we don't know if it will continue

and about 360 SLIM hotcakes,we don't know what is selling like hotcakes the discounted ARCADE and ELITES or the SLIM.

The Kinect is coming and its getting a lot of attention (unlike the Move).

almost all NATAL hype died down this E3 after KINECT name and MS horrible conference

Reach is coming and that'll generate ungodly amounts of money along with Xbox Live Gold subscriptions.

REACH releasing doesn't mean XBL money will be made

do you even know how a game makes money

I also expect a sales boost when the 360 Slim Arcade gets released.

we will see when that happens

Unless Sony gots another price cut up its sleeve or actually releases GT5, I don't know what else they can do to combat MS in the near future.

SONY will only do a price cut if SLIM,KINECT,360 price cut makes an impact 

GT5 dropping November.you should follow gaming

no the masses don't care about elit,they care about the games whihc are playable on Arcade.

Unless we can find the sales difference between Arcade and Elite units, no point in debating this.

$99 arcade would be big but MS won't do it for now and if they do $149 first and then $99 then it won't have much boost.

I agree $149 is more likely to happen first. I also think it'll have massive sales boost at that price. I expect another huge boost if they can manage to get it down to $99. I don't think the original Xbox went under $149 though.

Gamecube had its best sales at $99 but it wasn't selling at a higher price thats why.and even XBOX wasn't selling at the higher price and that the entire generation was low priced.

this generation has been high priced and even then people bought the console,it isn't that just because of the lower price people will buy 2-3 360'S

Well there has been a great demand for the Xbox 360 at the current high price, and there will be an even bigger demand at lower prices as long as it keeps receiving quality software.

you can use DS3 as NAV

That sounds comfortable. I think people rather use a Nav controller.

I don't need to buy MOVE STARTER bundle as i already have an EYE.

I'm looking at the big picture. Not just what you have.

and those some games requiring 2 MOVE controller will be rare so don't push it

Well if you want to experience those games you better have another Move controller lying around. The Kinect won't have that problem. No extra cost to play with a friend either.

Multiplayer is your problem as nobody in my home plays so i won't need more controllers.also like Wii people will buy more controllers

Once again, I'm looking at the big picture. You're just telling me why this isn't your problem.

also KINECT can't take more than 2 people at a time

Maybe it only supports 2 people, maybe it doesn't. All I know is buying two move controllers and an Eyetoy isn't cheap either. Especially when you have to buy Nav controllers.

so thats just $40 for a MOVE controller as i will be buying in Europe where it is cheaper and it will be more discounted on sites like AMAZON

Once again, you keep focusing on yourself. It'll take more than you to make the Move a success.

how is it a bargain?????????? 

Because buying everything for Move isn't cheap. Especially for multiplayer gaming.

also don't forget that MOVE will have alot more games and better ones for all genres

I doubt it. The Kinect has potential you can't get on the Move and vice versa. I mean its full body tracking vs a Wiimote knockoff.

also MOVE price was  affected by MS disappointing conference.

MOVE is cheaper in EU,JAPAN and

MOVE can also get a price cut as it costs alot less that its price to make

Uhhh... first one is an opinion, second is true, and I think you just pulled the third out of your ass.

the impact will be no greater than current one MOVE can only benefit

Well I think being so similar to the Wiimote may deter some people. They basically already experienced it.

they are still 5million ahead even after being cheaper

yes 360 had huge sales but not bigger than PS3

how is it important that 360 was making a profit when we are discussing sales,stop bullshiting

Sorry, I was under the illusion that profit is important for some reason. Anyhow, I made my point why they didn't need to counteract immediately.

you are talking as if 360 has been selling like hotcakes whole of 2010 till now.............lol

its just been 2 weeks and we don't know if it will continue

and about 360 SLIM hotcakes,we don't know what is selling like hotcakes the discounted ARCADE and ELITES or the SLIM.

I didn't make the claim. But sales are relatively the same as last year which was great. I expect a big holiday as well.

Well I think 2010 will be bigger than 2009. But we'll have to wait and see I guess.

I'd like to think a $50 price cut on an obsolete model made that much of an impact. But I doubt it.

almost all NATAL hype died down this E3 after KINECT name and MS horrible conference

I disagree, but its still getting a lot more attention than the Move.

REACH releasing doesn't mean XBL money will be made

Of course it does. It'll be a major reason people sign up and renew for XBL Gold.

do you even know how a game makes money

From the game itself being, DLC for Reach will be huge, and XBL Gold generates money I imagine.

we will see when that happens 

Yes, you'll definitely see a boost when it happens.

SONY will only do a price cut if SLIM,KINECT,360 price cut makes an impact 

GT5 dropping November.you should follow gaming

Can Sony afford to do a price cut so soon though? We'll have to wait and see I guess.

Sorry I'm not following a game I really don't care about. I just noticed this site hasn't posted the release date.

I don't think that the push GT5 will give to the PS3 will be so huge (not 3 million!) but it will be huge anyway.

But seriously, stop treating GT5 Prologue like a full game. It wasn't only a demo of course, but when you compare it to GT1-4 it had "almost" no content.

oops... wrong again huh?

so.. MS is sitting on $5.8Bn losses... which they can pretty much afford as it represents about 1/3 of their annual profits

Sony (despite their gaming dominance over the years) is sitting on cumulative losses of around $2bn.  

those two numbers will move closer togtehr over the next 2 years too.

Am I reading this chart right?

It seems the 360 could potentially be profitable by the end of this gen.

While Sony lost all the profits from the PS2 and then some.