Mmmmm.... I thought Gaming was a form of entertainment with my Atari... way before Sony entered the videogame industry.....

???

Honestly we will never know one way or another. Since the industry itself seems to take off during Sony's reign at the top, and Nintendo stumbling at the same time its always viewed as Sony being the main reson behind that rise.

But we dont know if that rise would have happened regardless....IE: Internet, publication, still a growing acceptence...we dont know if it was because of Sony or going to happen regardless.

I dont know that answer, but each side argueing matter of factly is dumb. We dont know, however i feel for myself and people i know we got into gaming before Sony entered....but we fell in love with gaming after....who is to say why? It was generally 3rd party developers, not the console that made us all love gaming so just because Sony was a vessel for them im not sure id say theyre the cause of it.

However, its safe to say th eWii has now expanded the market like no other time in history, imo.

weird, cause before Sony came i only did my homework on my video game consoles.

once in a while i would watch my dad play taxes on our genesis

:O you can do that???? Damn, that could have saved my time.... and it could have been better u.u

Sony's expansion was greatly tied to expansion in Europe, and the issue of "maturing" gaming comes from them tracking the 1 singular "gaming generation" who were NES kids and SNES adolescents, but then became PlayStation teens and PS2 college kids and now PS360 working professionals.

The game industry has been focused on one specific group of people, the "maturing" of things over the years merely tracks the "maturing" of them.

I don't like the word legitimized in the context they are using it in since it was never illegit to play video games as a form of entertainment, they can say that they had broadened the market in the PSX era on the home console front, and I'd say the current market has not expanded much in the user base of console gaming as a whole since the split is too great, and there are a lot of multi console owners this generation. What Nintendo did this gen was they came in and greatly disrupted the market(not really expand, but kept it stable in total user base thus far) in their favor and I doubt even they didn't know such strategy would be so successful. Anyways, expanded, yes, legitimized, fuck no.

Console talk aside though, handheld gaming has always been strong with Nintendo, and I'd say the handheld gaming has expanded more than any other offering or anything Sony has ever offered, from the 80 some million GBA sales to the amazing 130 mil DS in the 5 years that it's been out even with Sony doing almost 60mil at this point on their handheld. With the 3DS coming out, they will excite even more of the market flow, drawing in a complete different crowd with it as well. Nintendo overall has done way more when you are talking about combined effort imo, at least they are willing to try different things when it comes to hardware and keep it at an affordable price.

Sigh. It's true. 

I think we should all take a moment to reflect on how Sony made gaming a legitimate form of entertainment with great classics such as Pong, Pac-Man, Space Invaders, SMB, Tetris.

I thought the only thing Sony did with PS was take advantage of being able to distribute systems in countries previous Console companies weren't able to.

But beyond that, there's actually charts and such that show that what Sony is saying is factually wrong. One poster already posted a video of Reggie talking about this very thing in like 2005. Another poster showed a graphthat also disproves this statement by Sony.

Lets hope Namco, Sega, or Nintendo, or Atari don't bring up Pong, Pac-man, Mario Bros or Sonic. Or Sony might start complaining about how they shouldn't do that either. lol.

Before PSX, VGs were just a TOY. Sony was first to bring cinematic experiences and make games more serious. I love Gran Turismo. And without that, i would be playing shit sim games for the rest of my life. Mario Kart is really cool for my tastes, but sometimes i need to play soemthing more serious.

Dualshock is amazing too. Is like a evolution of the SNES controller, with is very good. Nintendo abandoned a great controller theme to make shits like the n64 and gc controllers. Even Wiimote is a shit in most cases(general in 3rd parties games) and needs Motion Plus to work great.

There are so much bias in this forum and hate for Sony. In this generation, Nintendo Fanboys came from my "best fanboys of the 3" to "the worst". In the past, I thought that the fans of Nintendo knew how to appreciate all forms of enterteinment. But I was so wrong, actually they only serve to the nintendo god. I get really angry when some shit wii game gets more praise than a good hd games in this site. No more heroes, for example, if it was a HD game, it would suck sooo much compared other games. But on Wii no, because we, with some exceptions, only have 1° party games good.

 I had only a Wii for 3 years(when i bought a ps3 in march this year) and i think that Nintendo had the best E3, with great wii games coming and a amazing handhels. BUT, we must knowledge that Sony had a great E3 too. Nintendo fans are getting really crazy this gen(joining sony fanboys with were already crazy) and they didn't learned that Nintendo is just other Corporation. They came to the point that Xenoblade is 10000x more interesting than FFXIIIVersus. And Tales of Graces is 1000x better than Tales of Vesperia. 3d Glasses are now a reason for the fall of the universe, cool.

MS and Sony fanboys are no better than that. But nowaday I have to say that Nintendo fanboys are no better than the others, to not say worst.