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Wagram on 30 June 2010
Zlejedi said:
ghinasky said:

Sony PlayStation 3 already made history 4 years as the longest running console that is hack & piracy free.

And this fact is a new hope for the video games industry.


That's also reason why it has 3rd place in console race ;)

You know. Whoever ends up with 3rd this gen IMO isn't necessarily a loser. Last place so far is what 35.4M units? That's not bad at all. and the gen isn't near over yet. So last place this gen will be around 50-60M.



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specialops787 on 30 June 2010

you people need to trim your everlasting quote boxes.



Solid_Snake4RD on 30 June 2010
CGI-Quality said:

Although I thought this was old news, it's good to hear it confirmed again. Looking through this thread though, you'd think something was bad about this news.

Oh well, congratulations Sony.


SONY WAS MAKING under $10 profit from JAN-MAR 2010 period

but they are now make good profit after 40 RSX induction



Kynes on 30 June 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:


SONY WAS MAKING under $10 profit from JAN-MAR 2010 period

but they are now make good profit after 40 RSX induction


Repeating it one thousand times doesn't make it the truth.



Solid_Snake4RD on 30 June 2010
Kynes said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:


SONY WAS MAKING under $10 profit from JAN-MAR 2010 period

but they are now make good profit after 40 RSX induction


Repeating it one thousand times doesn't make it the truth.


SONY's CFO announced it not me

 

and i was just replaying to CGI as i had mentioned this very earlier in the thread that he may not know off



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Kynes on 30 June 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Kynes said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:


SONY WAS MAKING under $10 profit from JAN-MAR 2010 period

but they are now make good profit after 40 RSX induction


Repeating it one thousand times doesn't make it the truth.


SONY's CFO announced it not me

 

and i was just replaying to CGI as i had mentioned this very earlier in the thread that he may not know off

He didn't said that they were making good profit. His words are  "This year is the first time that we are able to cover the cost of the PlayStation 3," Yoshida said. "We aren't making huge money from hardware, but we aren't bleeding like we used to."

 

You are distorting his words, and impliying things that are not true.



Solid_Snake4RD on 30 June 2010
kowenicki said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
kowenicki said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
kowenicki said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
silicon said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
kowenicki said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
kowenicki said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Kynes said:

Euro to Yen 5 years ratio

US$ to Yen 5 years ratio

 

The strong yen is going to make Sony bleed even more.


not anymore

yen has been bad  for atleast 2.5 years now

they are profiting with strong YEN since JAN this year so if conditions improve they will profit more

I'm sorry but you are miles off

The yen is the strongest it has been against the euro in 8 years and against the dollar in 5 years...

even if thats the case the profitability isn't affected as SONY wouldn't announce it now if that as the case

It is the case.  And of course they can still announce that the ps3 is now making a profit..(1 cent? 1 dollar? 10 dollars).. they are only talking about the profitability of one product... not the whole company.

yes and i am talking about that too

are you?

 

even if they are making low profit it is still profit,i was just questioning the user saying it just won't matter because of the YEN

Yeah high yen isn't good when you're an international company based in Japan.


If the price is the same but you get less yen per sale then your profit in yen goes down.

 

Regardless, hopefully this quarter the show a good profit.  They need to start making back those billions.

even if low profit

it is of signicant news as profit of any kind atleast stops loss what i meant

even if they are even,they make hugely from SW sales,easily more than $1-2billion from them


are you saying that Sony corp will make $1-2billion profit as a result of software?

they will make profit but they will invest more than half into marketing and R&D

they make around $10 from every PS3 game at full price,they sold 110m many discounted

plus they have  PSP and PS2 games plus they made a 200m SW sales projection which will have more PS3 SW sales as PSP and PS2 SW sales drop

also they get more profit from their own game sales as publisher

 

 

ACtivision alone gave SONY $500m royalties in 2008 for SW,many more by other developers and their own games


you continue to confuse revenue and profit..

they are vastly different... especially when your profit margin is as tiny as Sony's is  (2% I believe)


how do i confuse between revenue and profit,how the fuck exactly?

you think Activisions royalties are revenue???????????????????????????????????????


LOL... revenue is EXACTLY what they are... they are revenue!!!!      

ALL INCOME IS REVENUE, IT ISNT PROFIT UNLESS IT OUTWEIGHS LIABILITIES.

The may help sony make some profits but they are REVENUE!

They arent profits until when added to all other revenue they result in a profit.

 

 


i know it has to be more than the liabilities

 

but what i was saying here is if they are not making loss on any of their products PS3,PS2,PSP

getting royalties and earning from their own games(not talking about revenue here,i am only talking about after the developers are paid the per game royalties for SONY and the profit they own on their own games after paying for the development stuff excluding the delivery and retailer costs too)

reduce marketing and r&d

 

then we get profit

 

SONY were making big losses from PS3 loss and royalties,profit were not able to recover this so atleast now they can make profit unless they bnlow all on marketing and r&d

$1-2BILLION FIGURE THAT I GAVE WAS WITHOUT marketing and R&D costs but including everything else



Solid_Snake4RD on 30 June 2010
Kynes said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Kynes said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:


SONY WAS MAKING under $10 profit from JAN-MAR 2010 period

but they are now make good profit after 40 RSX induction


Repeating it one thousand times doesn't make it the truth.


SONY's CFO announced it not me

 

and i was just replaying to CGI as i had mentioned this very earlier in the thread that he may not know off

He didn't said that they were making good profit. His words are  "This year is the first time that we are able to cover the cost of the PlayStation 3," Yoshida said. "We aren't making huge money from hardware, but we aren't bleeding like we used to."

 

You are distorting his words, and impliying things that are not true.

i was not talking what the PResident said but what the SONY CFO previously said

 

and the good profit was from my site meant they are atleast making sure profit aand not losing

 

SONY was making under$10 profit from JAN-MAR period,that could be taken out but now WITH rsx THEY ARE MAKING SURE PROFIT



Kynes on 30 June 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Kynes said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Kynes said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:


SONY WAS MAKING under $10 profit from JAN-MAR 2010 period

but they are now make good profit after 40 RSX induction


Repeating it one thousand times doesn't make it the truth.


SONY's CFO announced it not me

 

and i was just replaying to CGI as i had mentioned this very earlier in the thread that he may not know off

He didn't said that they were making good profit. His words are  "This year is the first time that we are able to cover the cost of the PlayStation 3," Yoshida said. "We aren't making huge money from hardware, but we aren't bleeding like we used to."

 

You are distorting his words, and impliying things that are not true.

i was not talking what the PResident said but what the SONY CFO previously said

 

and the good profit was from my site meant they are atleast making sure profit aand not losing

 

SONY was making under$10 profit from JAN-MAR period,that could be taken out but now WITH rsx THEY ARE MAKING SURE PROFIT


You're pulling it out of your ass.



PakChiuCheng on 30 June 2010
CGI-Quality said:
kowenicki said:
CGI-Quality said:

Although I thought this was old news, it's good to hear it confirmed again. Looking through this thread though, you'd think something was bad about this news.

Oh well, congratulations Sony.

Like others here you are failing to grasp what is beign said....

All japanese company profits are currently a moveable feast at the mercy of a wildly fluctuating (massively strengthening) currency.

Profitability now does not necessarily equal profitability tomorrow.

Thats all.

errr....ok. Not sure what hit the sour nerve, but I was talking specifically about what was said just a few months ago. It was reported the hardware was profiting, though the exact figures weren't specified.



Sony being profitable hit his sour nerve. Plain and simple.