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superchunk said:
Wagram said:

Sony should have ditched that Sports Champions game and thrown in the PS Nav for that $99.99 bundle. They want to much as well.


The $99 bundle does include an Eye.


Whoops I mixed that up. Sorry about that. I meant to say with all 3 in one.



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Xbbjf9s said:
superchunk said:
Wagram said:

Sony should have ditched that Sports Champions game and thrown in the PS Eye for that $99.99 bundle. They want to much as well.


The $99 bundle does include an Eye.

but no nav correct?

True.



superchunk said:

Basically if he compared the Move's sport games to that of WiiSportsResort, it would be an entirely diffferent article with the two probably being essentially the same. Then it just become preference to visual layout.



If you take ping pong as example, theres a massive difference between the move ping pong VS wii motion plus ping pong. Motion plus still feature avatar moving on track to where the ball is, you decide the force and angle of the racket but not the position in 3D space. In move, the avatar is "you", your arm and racket position is reflected 1:1 in the game 3 D space. You can watch videos on youtube, with an openmind you should see the difference.



Icyedge said:
superchunk said:

Basically if he compared the Move's sport games to that of WiiSportsResort, it would be an entirely diffferent article with the two probably being essentially the same. Then it just become preference to visual layout.



If you take ping pong as example, theres a massive difference between the move ping pong VS wii motion plus ping pong. Motion plus still feature avatar moving on track to where the ball is, you decide the force and angle of the racket but not the position in 3D space. In move, the avatar is "you", your arm and racket position is reflected 1:1 in the game 3 D space. You can watch videos on youtube, with an openmind you should see the difference.


To  a limit you do. The pingpong in WSR is on rails and the avatar is controlled for you, so naturally you lack fun control. But you very much have control in a 3D space within the confined permited by the game. You moe it left/rigtht, up/down, it does that.




Icyedge said:
superchunk said:

Basically if he compared the Move's sport games to that of WiiSportsResort, it would be an entirely diffferent article with the two probably being essentially the same. Then it just become preference to visual layout.



If you take ping pong as example, theres a massive difference between the move ping pong VS wii motion plus ping pong. Motion plus still feature avatar moving on track to where the ball is, you decide the force and angle of the racket but not the position in 3D space. In move, the avatar is "you", your arm and racket position is reflected 1:1 in the game 3 D space. You can watch videos on youtube, with an openmind you should see the difference.

Nintendo's forced limits on mobility for pingpong do not negate the fact that they operate essentially the same.

Bet no one will ever tell a difference between the two in Tiger Woods golf game as an example or the controls a future COD game that's enhanced for both, etc. You know, games people actually want to play. .... fuckin ping pong for christs sake... btw, I did say 'essentially'... one mini game out of the rest fits in that realm.



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I assumed the comparison was with the motion plus, which also does not have exact 1-to-1 like the move does.



Carl2291 said:

Okay, so the media love it.

Now Sony... Get it out to the people you actually NEED to love it.

 

Massive advertising, along with the obvious media love... Should make things go well. Not Wii levels, but still good.


Well they do have that massive deal with Coca-Cola to advertise on every can (or was it bottle?). Throw in Kevin Butler ads, and commercials on family oriented channels for games like Eyepet and Start the Party and Sony will have a hit console this year. 



windbane said:

I assumed the comparison was with the motion plus, which also does not have exact 1-to-1 like the move does.


Clearly you havn't used it.



Unfortunately for Sony this won't help them, most people will look at it and see a Wii clone, and buy a Wii instead



superchunk said:
Icyedge said:
superchunk said:

Basically if he compared the Move's sport games to that of WiiSportsResort, it would be an entirely diffferent article with the two probably being essentially the same. Then it just become preference to visual layout.



If you take ping pong as example, theres a massive difference between the move ping pong VS wii motion plus ping pong. Motion plus still feature avatar moving on track to where the ball is, you decide the force and angle of the racket but not the position in 3D space. In move, the avatar is "you", your arm and racket position is reflected 1:1 in the game 3 D space. You can watch videos on youtube, with an openmind you should see the difference.

Nintendo's forced limits on mobility for pingpong do not negate the fact that they operate essentially the same.

Bet no one will ever tell a difference between the two in Tiger Woods golf game as an example or the controls a future COD game that's enhanced for both, etc. You know, games people actually want to play. .... fuckin ping pong for christs sake... btw, I did say 'essentially'... one mini game out of the rest fits in that realm.

Actually ping pong is an example of many games. Obviously, its not always Nintendo limiting the control to make the game more accessible. But, I agree that if a game have moderate speed and small movement, Wiimotionplus is 1 : 1.

I simply wanted to point you that theres a difference between Move and Wiimotionplus. Ping pong style game was a very good example because it features fast and large movement, like tennis or bowling, but is already watchable on Move and Wii. Im pretty sure that we will see more game featuring those type of movements on Move because it works better with it, ping pong or gladiator being good examples.