im sorry but thats not good enough, if natal is stand only, it will put many people off.

even playing golf from wii sports i never stand up, i just cant see how this will work unless they fix it so you can play by sitting down.

Yeah but the thing is, M$ arent gonna tell people this. they havent mentioned a lot of things yet, price, similtaneous multiplayer, etc. so its possible they will fix it. but that could also be why they havent given a price yet. if you think about it to improve the motion capture of the device so you can play while sitting down, might require more expensive components.

so thus a more expensive price; are they willing to do that?? is this why theres no price yet?? imo opinon they should forget the sitting down thing if its going to force rising development costs, the lesser of 2 evils imo.

Pushing Kinect's sales with some of the features suggested by propaganda still not properly working and hopefully fixing them later? Do MS realize that people won't find Kinect preinstalled like Windows? Didn't RRoD teach it anything?

RROD is irrelevant. This is a software development/maturity issue, and given the fact that Kinect is the only interface of its kind theres nothing to directly compare it to in order for anyone to pass judgement. They are only going to offer games which suit the interface at the time of release, therefore its good enough. If that limits their potential sales the sobeit, they have the opportunity to offer improved games as the years/months pass.

I will go further than that saying that they will only going to offer games which suit the interface, period.

Don't expect any other kind of games

I agree that Kinect with its unicity is in the same good initial conditions of Balance Board. Just another good reason to avoid to risk ruining its image trying to make it do what it's not good at. It isn't a universal, general purpose interface, it's a special purposes (plural, because despite not being general, there are already multiple uses where it could be the best interface and others can be devised) one, but, like BB, with a potential appeal very wide. So the best MS can do is to push games where it can be the best, like dance, soccer, wrestling, some fitness ones and whatever else they can find, cheating users into believing it can be better than wheel and pedals for racers, and whatever else it's not really the best at, can only disappoint and piss them off, so damaging Kinect.

Edit: I realize that you said something similar to what I'm saying, maybe before I wasn't clear enough about referring only to MS pushing uses that Kinect isn't good at, or not ready yet.

So it is ok to release a unfinished product knowing full and well it cannot do what is advertised?

New ad campaign from Sony…

"Kiddy motion control has you sitting to play games.  HARDCORE gaming is Standing Up all day."

Only thing that really bothers me is MS should NOT have shown a BS video of people sitting and playing and scanning in stuff when it wasn't possible to begin with.  Might as well show videos that state Kinect can make you fly like superman.  It's false advertising.  It got people drawn in and it's not delivering even a simple thing like sitting down to play driving games or navigating menus.  Don't show a product doing something that it CAN'T do.  That's just wrong and that's my biggest complaint on MS.  Over advertising and never delivering.  It's what they do with EVERYTHING they mess with.  Vista which was quickly replaced by W7.

They even advertised it as an Operating System!  

So we can at least say that MS QoS hasn't varied.