Are you seriously going to start going back and forth with the price options again. Didn't numerous members already pointed out numerous times that the Wii's price point wasn't the only thing that made it succesful? What did the Ps3 and 360 brought to gaming this gen? HD? Nintendo taught us that HD graphics didn't work this generation and that the casual don't give a flying **** about graphics. If there are FUN games it'll sell. Wii sold because of the great experience it offered people with Wii Sports. Not the price point. Stop trying to use that reasoning to back up your so called "facts" dude.

If the PS2 was so easy to emulate, don't you think they would have implemented it instead of using more expensive hardware components to do so? Or were they just trying to trick people into buying more expensive hardware?

Apple is a global company now. Their success is global, it is not limited to the US. Before the iPhone, Apple had no presence in the phone sector and we know how that all turned out. Before the iPod, Apple had no presence in audio devices and we all know how that turned out. Don't underestimate Apple's ability to tap into markets if it thinks it has an opportunity.

no they didn't point out anything

they were just giving their point of view

just because some people don't know how  the strategies of business work,the more amount of people doesn't make it to be true

the price doesn't matter but if with the bran PLaystation was then,at Wii's price they would have had a start like PS2 and then what would have Wii donwe,not so good numbers

nintendo didn't taught us anything,yeah if Wii would have sold with PS3 at its price at launch then that would have been something but not in the current situation

the facts,who talked about facts? - its just how business strategies work

and stop using DUDE,it is so fucking cliche

the original PS3's had PS2 backward compatiblity as they didn't develop the software but they also recognised that it only brought them more losses and dropped PS2 sales

70% of APPLE sales are in US.THE SUCCESS is far from global.

before IPOD they enterd into alot of sectors and they bombed there and we happened what happened to them and how they turned out

the IPOD music player market is very casual

the iphone was success because of the IPOD success. and also that the PHONE market is very different from the Gaming market.there are so many companies,uncountable and again very casual.

i'm not saying they could but it will be very tough

the iphone consumer doesn't follow games or play them regulary,they use it for music,calling,internet,etc.very casual

You are rewriting history. Before the iPod, Apple made computers and little else. The reason Apple did poorly in the 90's is because they had bad management. That's history now, Apple is a different company now.

People spend nearly $1000/yr on their iPhone. Calling that a casual market is laughable.

And you are making fake statistics about Apple sales. 58% of Apple's sales were international last quarter, that's a fact. You shouldn't make up phony statistics because it makes you look like a idiot and a liar.

I don't know.  I really believe that price was still easily the biggest mitigating factor in peoples purchases of the HD consoles (Which is why the Wii became a viability).  

Think about the market for a minute here.  Nintendo has a long track record of being quality and solid.  Sony does too but Sony's newest machine was the one out of the three that was most anticipated.  Simply because the PS1/PS2 were both amazing systems and widely accepted and loved.

Microsoft jumped out the gate first at 400$.  A pretty steep price but still somewhat reasonable.  The graphics early on in the HD systems weren't especially light years ahead of the prior systems.  There wasn't any killer software.  Microsoft was still unproven by and large.  They were an unknown quantity that not tons of people took the plunge with.  (In large part waiting for Sony / Nintendo (more established  video game companies) products. 

Sony / Nintendo come out.  Nintendo is significantly cheaper than either option.  Sony is absurdly high priced.  At this point, what is going through a consumers head?   The price difference is just too much to ignore.   The Wii comes out at 250$  with a brand new control scheme unlike anyone has really used.  

Microsoft and Sony have 150$ and 350$ higher priced machines.  The choice is obvious to casual who is interested modestly in gaming.   With the plan of buying maybe a Xbox or PS3 down the road.   Price was easily the biggest factor but motion controls played their role in the sense of hyping the product.

But I don't believe the hype would have even been nearly as high if the PS3 came in at a price say like (300$) originally.  I think the PS3 would have cannibalized 360s sales if it were 300$ and I think it would have chewed some of the Wii's sales on a week to week.   And the result IMO?   A competitive race between the PS3/Wii at this point in the generation and that would be where the PS3 would have an advantage moving forward.   Obviously though, 300$ was completely unachievable for the PS3 in 06'.

Despite Iwata leading Nintendo to print buckets load of money, they don't know how to run their business and any random forum poster would know better than Nintendo.

Despite being in the first spot, they are doomed to play catch up with its competitors.

THANKYOU

these people just disregard how brand power and momentum work

what were those mobile PDA's,tablet kind things

and the gaming console

i know APPLE is a different company but that doesn't make them conquer everything and Microsoft,Nintendo and SONY were too a very different company then,

you really don't know what i meant by casuals there.just because they spend much doesn't mean they aren't casual,just that they don't follow things.also in gaming it requires you to be concentrated on gaming which is not the case on a phone

Tweens spend $1000s on Miley Cyrus and other products,doesn't mean they aren't casuals.they run behind the new 'COOL' things

THE 58% you mentioned were including ipod,i was talking about iphone

Around 55% of iPhone sales are international currently. The growth rate internationally is higher than the Americas as well.

Comparing iPhone buyers to Mylie Cyrus fans is such a joke. Many of the people buying the iPhone are professionals who see it as a work tool. It performs the functions they want in a form factors they like, so they are willing to spend money on it. Many of the people rely on their phone to conduct serious business, I'd hardly call that casual use.