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rutea7 on 11 June 2010
jarrod said:
rutea7 said:
jarrod said:
rutea7 said:

i'm not even gonna say that most console exclusives xbox has can b played on the computer since someone will complain we are talking about console exclusives. but it's true...

the thing is other than halo or shooters most titles released on the xbox tend to be overlooked or have poor sales compared to the same genre on the ps3, namely rpgs and action/adventure games.

Over half the games I just listed can't be played on PC.  And RPGs do great on 360 (Oblivion, Fable II, Fallout 3, FFXIII, Mass Effect 1-2, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, etc), what are you talking about?  I can't think of any huge selling action/adventure titles that did amazingly (unless you count sandbox games like GTA4, Saints Row 1-2, Crackdown, Dead Rising, etc) but besides Uncharted 1-2 and MGS4, the genre's not exactly robust sales wise on PS3 either?


are u kidding me? lost odyssey sold well?? by what standards? and i've heard many people on these forums saying they disapointed in ME2 sales. i guess you can blame piracy for that.

you know those games you said, those exclusives, dont sell as well as halo games because xbox owners in the majority dont care for other genres or for games without online.

How many other new Japanese RPG IPs from new start ups have sold nearly a million worldwide?  LO wasn't an enormous hit, but it did pretty well for what it was.  Blue Dragon too really, in both cases where the games fell down was Japan (for obvious reasons).  I'd say about any no-name JRPG that can clear half a million is doing pretty well these days (and this also includes PS3 stuff like Demon's Souls or Valkyria Chronicles)...

And if Halo is the standard we're going by, then *everything* on PS3 has been pretty bad sales wise.  You don;t need to move 10m to be a success...


a game by sakaguchi would've sold at least double what it did on the ps3. saying otherwise would be being in denial. not every new rpg has sakaguchi and nobuo uematsu on the credits do they

even a different kind of rpg such as valkyria chronicles almost reached one million, i doubt sega expected the game to have such long legs, the boost in ps3 sales showed the game selling again. that's pretty good for a completely new franchise that's a strategy rpg



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nathantay on 11 June 2010

Wow so many people getting upset over some factual numbers.



         

jarrod on 11 June 2010
rutea7 said:
jarrod said:
rutea7 said:
jarrod said:
rutea7 said:

i'm not even gonna say that most console exclusives xbox has can b played on the computer since someone will complain we are talking about console exclusives. but it's true...

the thing is other than halo or shooters most titles released on the xbox tend to be overlooked or have poor sales compared to the same genre on the ps3, namely rpgs and action/adventure games.

Over half the games I just listed can't be played on PC.  And RPGs do great on 360 (Oblivion, Fable II, Fallout 3, FFXIII, Mass Effect 1-2, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, etc), what are you talking about?  I can't think of any huge selling action/adventure titles that did amazingly (unless you count sandbox games like GTA4, Saints Row 1-2, Crackdown, Dead Rising, etc) but besides Uncharted 1-2 and MGS4, the genre's not exactly robust sales wise on PS3 either?


are u kidding me? lost odyssey sold well?? by what standards? and i've heard many people on these forums saying they disapointed in ME2 sales. i guess you can blame piracy for that.

you know those games you said, those exclusives, dont sell as well as halo games because xbox owners in the majority dont care for other genres or for games without online.

How many other new Japanese RPG IPs from new start ups have sold nearly a million worldwide?  LO wasn't an enormous hit, but it did pretty well for what it was.  Blue Dragon too really, in both cases where the games fell down was Japan (for obvious reasons).  I'd say about any no-name JRPG that can clear half a million is doing pretty well these days (and this also includes PS3 stuff like Demon's Souls or Valkyria Chronicles)...

And if Halo is the standard we're going by, then *everything* on PS3 has been pretty bad sales wise.  You don;t need to move 10m to be a success...


a game by sakaguchi would've sold at least double what it did on the ps3. saying otherwise would be being in denial. not every new rpg has sakaguchi and nobuo uematsu on the credits do they

even a different kind of rpg such as valkyria chronicles almost reached one million, i doubt sega expected the game to have such long legs, the boost in ps3 sales showed the game selling again. that's pretty good for a completely new franchise that's a strategy rpg

If you want to see how Sakaguchi games do on other platforms, take a long hard look at all his DS bombs (ASH, Away, BDPlus, Awakened Shadow).  I do think LO and BD probably would've done better on PS3 overall, but that'd also likely be attributed entirely to Japan (which was an issue for 360, as I mentioned).

Likewise, if you really want to get into the "from developer X" game, then Valkyria was being hyped to hell as the new game from the popular Sakura Taisen team in Japan (and to a lesser extent to the western press as the Skies of Arcadia team).  Not as big as coming from the father of FF/Chrono, no, but ST was huge in Japan and considered Sega's most valuable IP next to VF & Sonic when they went multiplatform.



MARCUSDJACKSON on 11 June 2010
Squilliam said:
tinybigman108 said:
Squilliam said:

Sony hasn't published anything incredibly big yet in the generation. Theres no point getting uptight about a remark on twitter about stuff we already know.


i'll take Sony's great offerings (great varied exclusives) over Microsoft's (only 3 exclusives) any day of the week.  i'm sure people can figure out which 3 i'm talking about.


What great offerings are those? Sony makes great rental games but at least those few Microsoft games have replayability and local multiplayer so therefore are worth owning. I would take one game to keep over 12 games which are only good for rentals.



i only see 2 games on 360 worth buying. the rest are rentals



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tinybigman108 on 11 June 2010
Squilliam said:
tinybigman108 said:
Squilliam said:
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hahahahahahaha yea like i said i'd rather take the variety of those games from developers i love over the 3 exclusives (in this case the 2 you named here).   sorry dude i don't limit myself to just shooters especially one i don't like (halo), and another while pretty good (gears) with a crappy online (gears2)

man i tell ya if it wasnt for mass effect, splinter cell, and alan wake i wouldn't have even touched my 360 this year. while on my ps3 this year i've played Heavy Rain, GoW3, 3D Dot, RDR, Star Ocean Inter, ModNation, Dante's Inferno, Final Fantasy 13, WKC, Lost Planet 2, GTA Liberty City Stories, MLB10 The Show.  notice how among this list i have 6 exclusives from different genres?  that's right variety the very thing i was talking about.  so you go ahead and play your same 2 games over and over while i'll go on playing my variety of games.

YAWN!

Assumption is the mother of all... Anyway I play games which have great replayability. You don't get that from Sony. How many shooters has Sony bought out with decent local play? 0. With a console which defines itself as the central media centre for the main TV in the house why would I want to keep anything which cannot be played more than one person at once? My PC is a personal item and theres no expectation for local play which makes single player only games OK. My console is attached to a TV in a room which sees a lot of use. How can I even play a single player console game again if they are so lame as to be ultra violent, single player, no pick up and play?

Sure you can argue that Sony has some coop games but when Nintendo Wii is on that same TV why bother with Mod Nation when I can have Mario Kart, why bother with LBP when I have NSMB Wii? Why bother with God of War when I have Super Smash Bros Brawl? What else is left? Graphics? My HTPC crushes the PS3 in outright performance. My gaming PC is night and day vs my HTPC. Gameplay? I have a huge selection of games I already own on my PC which are outright as good as if not better than everything Sony has ever released this generation.

 

i dont like mario kart or brawl, i do like NMBW wii but i haven't even finished it yet.  you seem to be a pc elitist to me so the only game(s) your probably playing are MW2, BFBC2 as you say you dont like single player.  to me that seems limited.  there are just time where i don't want to play with other people and a great single player experience is more rewarding them so regular old multiplayer. 

actually what makes this so called pc gaming better than console gaming? all 3rd party games are multiplatform and they play the exact same way across all platforms.  to me unique gaming experience are more important than just multiplayer and single player games bring that to the table for me.

oh and please enlightment to more gaming beyond ps3 and 360.  also please tell me what your playing that gives you such a great experience on PC or 360.

Again with the assumptions! I have honestly never played MW2 or BC2 because I am simply NOT interested. Anyway if PC elitism means that I care enough about my experience to take control, to not be spoon fed and actually make decisions about where to prioritise my computers resources in a game, then im guilty as charged. Elitism implies higher standards in some things and of course theres an element of PC gamers who have much higher standards, its the nature of the platform and as natural as the fact you'll find people who love Nintendo games also own a Wii. On the other hand casual is the main focus of the PC and there are more people playing Farmville than there are playing the Wii.

What am I playing on my oh so mighty PC? Civilization IV, Jagged Alliance 2 (with mods), Freespace 2, League of Legends, Age of Empires 3, Red Faction 3 and STALKER. I have played all except for LOL, STALKER and RF3 for over 500 hours each. I don't even begin to think a game is replayable until well past the 100 hour mark. The majority of these barring AOE3 and LOL are single player experiences.

What makes PC gaming better? Well its simple. My PC is a DS, PSP, PS1, PS2, NES, SNES, Megadrive, Saturn, Dreamcast, GB, GBA, etc as much as it is a PC. On emulation grounds alone its the best gaming machine in the universe. Beyond consoles I can play games from over 20 years ago on my PC. I can experience a library unmatched in depth and breadth and thats without resorting to emulators.

it looks like most of the games you listed are rts which i don't like but it's cool for you.  as for putting in over 500 hrs into a game let alone 2 i'm sorry i don't have that type of time for one game, and if i did that i'd miss out on the other great games.  like i said i find gaming on pc uncomfortable so i'll stay with consoles.  i find farmville to be somewhat of a retarded game but that's just me no offense to those that like it.



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MARCUSDJACKSON on 11 June 2010
nathantay said:

Wow so many people getting upset over some factual numbers.



thats because thay don't care about the numbers. thay only care about what it means to them. like me for instance, it means nothing so i could careless.

but for others it means so mutch more. for some (depending on witch side your) it spells succee for there console and others it's the perception of how it looks for there console.

 



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Flackattack51694 on 12 June 2010

Aaron has always been such a fat douche if I was Microsoft I would be embarrased if that douche represented my company. Wonder what that fatass has to say when the PS3 passes 360.