ya i guess using an analog stick for aiming is more proper than an actual precision controller GTFO HERE!!!

Why not?  By announcing games before E3 Sony get a lot of coverage in the gaming media.  If they announced them all during E3, most of their announcements would get lost amongst all of the other reveals.  There's no trophy/prize for "winning" E3.

Cause it's teh casuals. It started on the Wii, but now it's been ported to every system.

True, there were absolutely NO ONE in the casual market who bought one of the HD Twins, true true

From my perspective. It will be the part of the conference when I sigh and turn back towards the game I am playing at that time. (I distinctly remember playing inFamous whilst watching the Nintendo conference)

Are you suggesting that the Move games revealed (I don't mean SOCOM) look enticing, like the shoot?

You said nothing about enticing, you said proper games, stop trying to move the goalposts for one second if you're going to talk bad about something at least man up and stick to your guns

Rail shooters are "proper games", being "enticing" is a matter of perspective and taste. But changing what you say is rather annoying, no one can have a proper discussion with you if you're not willing to stick to what you say you know?  Then what's the point of coming on forums and speaking your mind if you're not willing to have a proper discussion?

Dunno why you threw in the comment about inFamous and Nintendo, likely to say Nintendo doesn't show off good games or whatever as a way to talk down about them in a stealth way to get on peoples nerves but whatever.

Are you suggesting that you were enjoying their talking about the Vitality Sensor? If its any consilation, I remember playing during the M$ conference, but getting too angry at Don Mattrick's smile during the conference, and then angry at Kojima and feeling the pain of FF XIII....

Well from my perspective, they are proper games, and everyone understands what I mean. These move games are primarily mini-games, rather than 1 full game

You feel pain for games?  When you can still buy it? It's not like Square or Kojima raped you, or killed your mother, or took ANYTHING away from you.

And Vitality Sensor was just, a snip, a subpoint of last E3 at best...

So now they ARE proper games, hokay cause at first you said "Whatever, I am still not convinced that Sony meant for 3 huge games to be announced before E3, and fear that we will get more Move stuff rather than more proper games" making it sound like for some reason Move games aren't actually games and honestly rail shooters are full games so I'm not getting the mini-game comment, I mean there is a mini-game collection called Move Party... if you want to get into that...

I felt pain as PS3 sales drifted away, and it felt like I was losing, I am not sure why though... They also did take a little away from me, I am certain that FF XIII would have been released ealier in Europe if it hadn't come to 360

Well I don't distinctly remember playing inFamous throughout the whole conference, I just remember playing whilst they were announcing it

Rail shooters are limited when compared to Killzone 3, they are not proper full blown games

I do fear, however, that we are getting off topic

Funny thing Killzone 2 doesn't give me the same experience or gameplay as a rail shooter either and if that's what counts to be a proper full blown game, then Killzone isn't a full blown game :(

So you had to wait for a Square game... in Europe... HAH!  When was the last time that DIDN'T happen... or the last time a Square game didn't release there at ALL.

As for the topic, we're the only one's talking anymore, once we stop this thread is pretty much dead so it doesn't matter much if the topic evolved into the current one, that's what happens when you have discussions, people are still free to discuss the OP but it seems the people that wanted to do that have come and gone...