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Seece said:
I understand what Carl is saying, it's not fun waiting years for a game (although it'll come when it comes, no need to stamp your feet. some people need patience)

However carl, you claim you want this to come to 360, then you completely undermine it's sales potential on the 360

"just so a few people on another console can have it at the same time is simply being shit to a full userbase."

What does "full" userbase even mean?

SE will weigh up if it's worth it for them to go multi, whether Microsoft pays, or they think the extra version will make more money. Either way it's their choice, and the real FF fans will just wait (like darth)

you're not even actually waiting, just go about your daily life and play other games, does it really affect you getting it one year late ... if it does then .. wow.

Yeah that sounded harsher than what it was supposed to mean. Shouldn't really have said "few".

Full userbase was the PS3 userbase that would buy the game.

And i will wait. And rent it if i must. Doesn't make me any less of a fan of the series really. Just makes me less of a fan of SE.

And it wont really affect my life at all. Just annoy me for having to wait even longer.



                            

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darthdevidem01 said:
Xxain said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Jdevil3 said:
Xxain said:
Jdevil3 said:
I really didn't want this to turn into one of those Final Fantasy hate threads :S

And why does everyone think delay=Xbox 360 version in the works? :P

The game hasn't even been announced for that platform, lol. It says it's for PlayStation 3 on Final Fantasy Versus XIII's official site :P

Versus Xlll will going to 360 thatsinevitable. Its a question of when and how will it effect the development cycle.

 

Maybe it's inevitable... but as long as they don't make it official, the game remains a PlayStation 3 exclusive and we probably shouldn't be asuming Square has started porting it to the Xbox 360 and that it will be delayed :P

We don't even know if it's being ported or not :P

There's no reason for it to be inevitable, FFXIII sales have PROVEN that PS3 can carry a FF game on its own shoulders. 


Darth SE wants to become a EA type company. Why do you think all SE titles were MS timed Xxclusive? because they want to build a fanbase on 360, FFXlll were obviously lower than PS3 but they weren't bad and shows interest in SE titles..why keep VS another potential fanbase builder from 360?

Don't you think the amount sold on xbox 360 could have been sold on PS3? (for FFXIII)


??? are you askinb if there wasnt 360 version would all its sells be PS3? if so the answer partial...contrary to belief of 360 fanboys that bought FFXlll that wouldn't of went out get it If it was on PS3 only. What your asking is impossible to answer without data. How Many 360 owners that bought FFXlll were new, fanboys who wouldn't purchase it elsewhere or ppl who only own 360,?

Xxain said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Xxain said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Jdevil3 said:
Xxain said:
Jdevil3 said:
I really didn't want this to turn into one of those Final Fantasy hate threads :S

And why does everyone think delay=Xbox 360 version in the works? :P

The game hasn't even been announced for that platform, lol. It says it's for PlayStation 3 on Final Fantasy Versus XIII's official site :P

Versus Xlll will going to 360 thatsinevitable. Its a question of when and how will it effect the development cycle.

 

Maybe it's inevitable... but as long as they don't make it official, the game remains a PlayStation 3 exclusive and we probably shouldn't be asuming Square has started porting it to the Xbox 360 and that it will be delayed :P

We don't even know if it's being ported or not :P

There's no reason for it to be inevitable, FFXIII sales have PROVEN that PS3 can carry a FF game on its own shoulders. 


Darth SE wants to become a EA type company. Why do you think all SE titles were MS timed Xxclusive? because they want to build a fanbase on 360, FFXlll were obviously lower than PS3 but they weren't bad and shows interest in SE titles..why keep VS another potential fanbase builder from 360?

Don't you think the amount sold on xbox 360 could have been sold on PS3? (for FFXIII)


??? are you askinb if there wasnt 360 version would all its sells be PS3? if so the answer partial...contrary to belief of 360 fanboys that bought FFXlll that wouldn't of went out get it If it was on PS3 only. What your asking is impossible to answer without data. How Many 360 owners that bought FFXlll were new, fanboys who wouldn't purchase it elsewhere or ppl who only own 360,?

Yes it is impossible to know without data but if it was PS3 only a lot of the 1.3 Million sold on xbox 360 would be on PS3. The 360 port was worth it for SE but its not "absolutely needed".

Nomura wants to push the power of the PS3 to its highest potential, in order to be able to do that I think he would be willing to sacrifice a few thousand in sales

@theprof00

I have not commented on any of the issues your talking about so I don't know why your bringing them up & BTW there was no confirmed 1 year delay. 

 



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Xxain said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Xxain said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Jdevil3 said:
Xxain said:
Jdevil3 said:
I really didn't want this to turn into one of those Final Fantasy hate threads :S

And why does everyone think delay=Xbox 360 version in the works? :P

The game hasn't even been announced for that platform, lol. It says it's for PlayStation 3 on Final Fantasy Versus XIII's official site :P

Versus Xlll will going to 360 thatsinevitable. Its a question of when and how will it effect the development cycle.

 

Maybe it's inevitable... but as long as they don't make it official, the game remains a PlayStation 3 exclusive and we probably shouldn't be asuming Square has started porting it to the Xbox 360 and that it will be delayed :P

We don't even know if it's being ported or not :P

There's no reason for it to be inevitable, FFXIII sales have PROVEN that PS3 can carry a FF game on its own shoulders. 


Darth SE wants to become a EA type company. Why do you think all SE titles were MS timed Xxclusive? because they want to build a fanbase on 360, FFXlll were obviously lower than PS3 but they weren't bad and shows interest in SE titles..why keep VS another potential fanbase builder from 360?

Don't you think the amount sold on xbox 360 could have been sold on PS3? (for FFXIII)


??? are you askinb if there wasnt 360 version would all its sells be PS3? if so the answer partial...contrary to belief of 360 fanboys that bought FFXlll that wouldn't of went out get it If it was on PS3 only. What your asking is impossible to answer without data. How Many 360 owners that bought FFXlll were new, fanboys who wouldn't purchase it elsewhere or ppl who only own 360,?

We KNOW there are people who boycotted the game. There are many such videos and blogs and texts online which report that sentiment, and these are the very vocal people. Besides the simple "if it's not an exclusive I'm not buying it", how many lost sales can be attributed to the delay or other aspects relating to the move? For example, the game was a straight line. No world map. No towns. How much of that is attributable to cutting out "unnecessary" elements?



darthdevidem01 said:

Yes it is impossible to know without data but if it was PS3 only a lot of the 1.3 Million sold on xbox 360 would be on PS3. The 360 port was worth it for SE but its not "absolutely needed".

Nomura wants to push the power of the PS3 to its highest potential, in order to be able to do that I think he would be willing to sacrifice a few thousand in sales

@theprof00

I have not commented on any of the issues your talking about so I don't know why your bringing them up & BTW there was no confirmed 1 year delay. 

 

"Your whole reason for renting it is because its going to another console, thats IS ridiculous!"



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In my opinion, I think it is Carl's choice wether he wants to buy the game or rent it. And I think that the reasons for him to do so are HIS reasons and HIS opinions. Wether you people agree with his reasons for buying or renting the game does not matter because, after all, those are YOUR reasons/opinions and the only reasons that DO matter in the end are his, because it is his choice and he is the one who decides what to do and why he does it :P

Or at least that's what I think =P



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darthdevidem01 said:
Xxain said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Xxain said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Jdevil3 said:
Xxain said:
Jdevil3 said:
I really didn't want this to turn into one of those Final Fantasy hate threads :S

And why does everyone think delay=Xbox 360 version in the works? :P

The game hasn't even been announced for that platform, lol. It says it's for PlayStation 3 on Final Fantasy Versus XIII's official site :P

Versus Xlll will going to 360 thatsinevitable. Its a question of when and how will it effect the development cycle.

 

Maybe it's inevitable... but as long as they don't make it official, the game remains a PlayStation 3 exclusive and we probably shouldn't be asuming Square has started porting it to the Xbox 360 and that it will be delayed :P

We don't even know if it's being ported or not :P

There's no reason for it to be inevitable, FFXIII sales have PROVEN that PS3 can carry a FF game on its own shoulders. 


Darth SE wants to become a EA type company. Why do you think all SE titles were MS timed Xxclusive? because they want to build a fanbase on 360, FFXlll were obviously lower than PS3 but they weren't bad and shows interest in SE titles..why keep VS another potential fanbase builder from 360?

Don't you think the amount sold on xbox 360 could have been sold on PS3? (for FFXIII)


??? are you askinb if there wasnt 360 version would all its sells be PS3? if so the answer partial...contrary to belief of 360 fanboys that bought FFXlll that wouldn't of went out get it If it was on PS3 only. What your asking is impossible to answer without data. How Many 360 owners that bought FFXlll were new, fanboys who wouldn't purchase it elsewhere or ppl who only own 360,?

Yes it is impossible to know without data but if it was PS3 only a lot of the 1.3 Million sold on xbox 360 would be on PS3. The 360 port was worth it for SE but its not "absolutely needed".

Nomura wants to push the power of the PS3 to its highest potential, in order to be able to do that I think he would be willing to sacrifice a few thousand in sales

@theprof00

I have not commented on any of the issues your talking about so I don't know why your bringing them up & BTW there was no confirmed 1 year delay. 

 


Dartg you missed my point. SE wants to be a EA type company..that Wadas dream. Hoe can they can they do that Xxclusive to one console? yea some PS3 sales were possibly lost 360 port but if it goes to establishing the popularlarity SE has on PS to 360 it will all be worth it.

Soriku said:
:(

SE can go shoot themselves. How hard is it to show at least another cutscene trailer at least?

Anyway SE make TWEWY2 while we wait.

Lol, with the way SE is working, perhaps you'll see it in 10 years.

Also, this whole argument here is kinda senseless. Are you really willing to waste time debating something that is merely one person's misunderstood opinion?



Xxain said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Xxain said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Xxain said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Jdevil3 said:
Xxain said:
Jdevil3 said:
I really didn't want this to turn into one of those Final Fantasy hate threads :S

And why does everyone think delay=Xbox 360 version in the works? :P

The game hasn't even been announced for that platform, lol. It says it's for PlayStation 3 on Final Fantasy Versus XIII's official site :P

Versus Xlll will going to 360 thatsinevitable. Its a question of when and how will it effect the development cycle.

 

Maybe it's inevitable... but as long as they don't make it official, the game remains a PlayStation 3 exclusive and we probably shouldn't be asuming Square has started porting it to the Xbox 360 and that it will be delayed :P

We don't even know if it's being ported or not :P

There's no reason for it to be inevitable, FFXIII sales have PROVEN that PS3 can carry a FF game on its own shoulders. 


Darth SE wants to become a EA type company. Why do you think all SE titles were MS timed Xxclusive? because they want to build a fanbase on 360, FFXlll were obviously lower than PS3 but they weren't bad and shows interest in SE titles..why keep VS another potential fanbase builder from 360?

Don't you think the amount sold on xbox 360 could have been sold on PS3? (for FFXIII)


??? are you askinb if there wasnt 360 version would all its sells be PS3? if so the answer partial...contrary to belief of 360 fanboys that bought FFXlll that wouldn't of went out get it If it was on PS3 only. What your asking is impossible to answer without data. How Many 360 owners that bought FFXlll were new, fanboys who wouldn't purchase it elsewhere or ppl who only own 360,?

Yes it is impossible to know without data but if it was PS3 only a lot of the 1.3 Million sold on xbox 360 would be on PS3. The 360 port was worth it for SE but its not "absolutely needed".

Nomura wants to push the power of the PS3 to its highest potential, in order to be able to do that I think he would be willing to sacrifice a few thousand in sales

@theprof00

I have not commented on any of the issues your talking about so I don't know why your bringing them up & BTW there was no confirmed 1 year delay. 

 


Dartg you missed my point. SE wants to be a EA type company..that Wadas dream. Hoe can they can they do that Xxclusive to one console? yea some PS3 sales were possibly lost 360 port but if it goes to establishing the popularlarity SE has on PS to 360 it will all be worth it.

The final creative decision will be Nomura;s hands, thats my assumption. Nomura has stated when XIII went multiplat that he didn't like it going multiplat.

If the final decision is in Nomura's hands the game most probably won't go multiplat, IF the final decision is in Wada's hands it probably will go multiplat

Also 1 or 2 years ago Nomura said that he told one of his team members they are focussing on taking the full specs out of PS3, so you also have to consider that it might be too late to port it to xbox 360.

@theprof00

That was in the context of it being delayed BECAUSE it was going to 360

Your pulling at straws to try to create a argument here, go bait someone else.



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Carl2291 said:
Okay.

If it isn't at E3 then i will be pretty much convinced that they have delayed it even further to make a 360 version.

If true, then fuck you, Square Enix. You just lost a buyer. Will turn straight into a rental, if that.


They said this wouldn't be shown at E3 2010 back in late 09 or theres very little chance of it happening.