I think if you guys lived in a deprived country with absolutely no opportunities to go by, you wouldn't think twice trying to enter the USA (Legally or not) to get a better life or any other MEDC nation.

otoniel said: governments are all about business ($$$$$) so they wont do shit about the cartels in mexico i think this law is just ridiculous and reminds me of hitler era USA need immigrants as immigrants need this country i just think is sad that we are born with a flag on top of our heads

Who said USA doesnt need immigrants?

 

The media is trying to make this into a racist debate, its not racist, its a LAW! They are not saying "No mexicans allowed here HAHAH RACIST FTW", They are saying "If your ILLEGAL (and it doesnt matter where you come from,you can be German, French, Mexican, Canadian) you must register in our country, were people complaining about the Ellis island? no thats when Immagrants wanted to be American, now they want American to be them.

 

Dont come in our country illegally then ask for the same benifits that LEGAL citizens get, then act like its OUR fault that your too lazy to register here.

 

Garnett said: otoniel said: governments are all about business ($$$$$) so they wont do shit about the cartels in mexico i think this law is just ridiculous and reminds me of hitler era USA need immigrants as immigrants need this country i just think is sad that we are born with a flag on top of our heads Who said USA doesnt need immigrants?   The media is trying to make this into a racist debate, its not racist, its a LAW! They are not saying "No mexicans allowed here HAHAH RACIST FTW", They are saying "If your ILLEGAL (and it doesnt matter where you come from,you can be German, French, Mexican, Canadian) you must register in our country, were people complaining about the Ellis island? no thats when Immagrants wanted to be American, now they want American to be them.   Dont come in our country illegally then ask for the same benifits that LEGAL citizens get, then act like its OUR fault that your too lazy to register here.

From my experience it tends to be the immigrants who actually want to make some sort of living, pay taxes and abide the laws of the land.

You make yourself sound like its your god given right to be an American, if so shouldn't the native indians say something about that?

I know what I say is pretty idealist and countries need to manage the economy and the ideals of there people first, but these guys are just humans beings in which we forget most of the time.

Kamal said: Garnett said: otoniel said: governments are all about business ($$$$$) so they wont do shit about the cartels in mexico i think this law is just ridiculous and reminds me of hitler era USA need immigrants as immigrants need this country i just think is sad that we are born with a flag on top of our heads Who said USA doesnt need immigrants?   The media is trying to make this into a racist debate, its not racist, its a LAW! They are not saying "No mexicans allowed here HAHAH RACIST FTW", They are saying "If your ILLEGAL (and it doesnt matter where you come from,you can be German, French, Mexican, Canadian) you must register in our country, were people complaining about the Ellis island? no thats when Immagrants wanted to be American, now they want American to be them.   Dont come in our country illegally then ask for the same benifits that LEGAL citizens get, then act like its OUR fault that your too lazy to register here.   From my experience it tends to be the immigrants who actually want to make some sort of living, pay taxes and abide the laws of the land. You make yourself sound like its your god given right to be an American, if so shouldn't the native indians say something about that? I know what I say is pretty idealist and countries need to manage the economy and the ideals of there people first, but these guys are just humans beings in which we forget most of the time.

Yes it is those immigrants, but if they are Illegal then they dont have to pay taxes, and so forth.

 

No the Native Americans never formed a country, they were just sitting on the land. We formed the United States of America, not them, but the people who came from Europe.

 

I understand they are humans, but so were my ancestors, they never complained about having to Register in the country, they never complained about being check for dieases, but somehow these  (some of them, not all. Some actually want to register, and to them i say go for it) illegals are above the Law and dont need to register, but Obama wants to give them health care.

otoniel said: governments are all about business ($$$$$) so they wont do shit about the cartels in mexico i think this law is just ridiculous and reminds me of hitler era USA need immigrants as immigrants need this country i just think is sad that we are born with a flag on top of our heads

Oh yeah, sending illegal immigrants back to their country is exactly what Hitler did. Open a history book and figure out why that's a dumb comment.

Perhaps we do need immigrants and with that said plenty of immigrants come to the US legally. But you can't give me one good reason why we need illegal immigrants.

HappySqurriel said: highwaystar101 said: Slimebeast said: This is what immigration does. It hijacks the country from within. It's those damn pesky Saxons that did it to my country This is a false equivalency though ... Legal immigration and illegal immigration are vastly different in how they impact the immigrants, the people in the community they move into, and the society on the whole. In a large part because they have no status within a country, illegal immigrants are heavily exploited by individuals within their host country; and working for less than minimum wage for excessive hours in dangerous conditions is often one of the better outcomes they face. To see the impact on individuals, consider what happens to the legal unskilled labour when they face a job market where employers are forced to pay them two or three times as much as someone who is in the country illegally. While it would be unfair to attribute it entirely to illegal immigration, illegal immigration is certainly one of the reason why the unemployment rate is so bad for people with a high school education (or less) Finally, there is the community on the whole which faces a massive population increase from people who don’t pay taxes because they’re neither citizens nor are paid through legitimate channels.

My comment was not linked to the OP or the thread.

If you read my extract of Slimebeast's post he doesn't specify legal or illegal immigrants, he just says immigrants. I was just picking out what he said and attempting (and failing) a witty reply.

 

I appreciate your effort to correct me, but I'm afraid that you're telling me something I already know, sorry.

Slimebeast said: highwaystar101 said: Slimebeast said: This is what immigration does. It hijacks the country from within. It's those damn pesky Saxons that did it to my country Haha. Yeah Britain has had several migration waves in the last two thousand years or so. I always mix them up, Saxons and those other guys, since I watched Ivanhoe.

I blame Romans, ever since they came to our island more and more people just keep coming. They started a trend.

If the USA didn't have such idiotic gun laws in some states then the Mexican people wouldn't be able to get so much weapons that easily. A lot of weapons of Mexico were smuggled into the Mexican border from the USA(I think primely Texas, but I could be mistaken)

That would already solve a -little- bit of the problems there. How they will handle the drugs cartel problem in Mexico is beyond me. It's getting really out of hand.

otoniel said: Chairman-Mao said: Wasn't their a thread about this thing like a few weeks or even a month ago? I agree with the law though, I wouldn't want illegal immigrants coming into my neighbourhood, they'll probably just steal and destroy things because they have no money or jobs. Also on a separate note, why do Mexicans come to America to live a better life, why not stay in Mexico and try to do something to improve not only your life but your community as well. wow such an ignorant post  1st of all is NEIGHBORHOOD not the other way around  2nd= thanks to who do u eat ur veggies, burgers or even clean ur buildings surrounding you? ILLEGALS  3rd= who said that ALL ILLEGALS are mexicans?  i really hope u were joking or being sarcastic  or really u need to be more open minded

Lmfao you call my post ignorant and then claim everyone in the world spells it neighborhood. In Canada and I think UK we spell it neighbourhood.

Secondly your 2nd point doesn't even make sense. "Thanks to who do u eat ur veggies, burgers or even clean ur buildings surrounding you?" That doesn't make sense.

Ummm well we're talking about a law in the southern USA and Mexico borders the USA so the majority of illegals are Mexicans.

 

 

I don't understand why this needs to be made a law. Doesn't it make sense to ask for proper identification whenever you suspect anyone of criminal activity?