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thats prob because I'm sitting on a video game forum. Isn't that what we are here to do? Discuss the video game industry? That's what I love to do and we were having a civil argument. We simply disagree on the view point, I like you and think your a good member of the site that's why there was no name calling or anything just different points of view. Sorry if I offended you or anthing I wasn't trying to.



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I hope this shift will also mean new IPs, I always liked them very much but I have lost some interest in their last games, Resistance is good, but there are really too many FPSs around, also Ratchet & Clanck... while I loved it on Ps2, now it got a bit old in my opinion....I think they could do better than this.



Seece said:
Euphoria14 said:
Why "oh no"? Doesn't Sony still own the Ratchet and Clank and Resistance IPs?

We may have lost a great 2nd party dev, but we didn't lose the games.

Yup, and like others have said here, if they continue making 1 sony exclusive every year, PS3 fans have lost NOTHING. Only GAINED another game from IG ..

 

But you know the real reason people are pissed don't you?

Because Insomniac will undoubtedly make 360 games? I don't see what the big deal is.

Now we get to see Insomniac make what they want to make, and after giving me one hell of a ride this gen I wish them the best.

 

 

Now Naughty Dog can make Ratchet and Clank.



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Seece said:
Reasonable said:
Seece said:
Reasonable said:
Makes sense. I get the feeling they'd have made this move earlier but were tied in with Sony owning the IP.

I hope the new IP is a good one and they get a warm welcome on 360 as I've always enjoyed their games myself.

Given the current wisdom seems to be develop for PS3 then move the code to 360 they should be well set up for success.

Interesting they have confirmed they will remain committed to PS3 exclusives, too. I guess that means at least Resistance 3 but if their multi-platform title sells well on 360 then surely they'd focus more on being fully multi-platform going forward.

No doubt this will get the expected responses from the overly biased few - from 360 fans gloating to PS3 fans moaning - but it makes sense to me.

One final point, with this plus the fallout from IW / Activision EA are suddenly getting some neat partners, no? And with Bungie going to Activision I'd say MS needs to consider either building up more 1st party or seriously commissioning some more exclusives as it feels like only Nintendo / Sony right now are well set up to deliver a steady stream of exclusives.

Note the last paragraph isn't a knock on MS, just an observation on how much the developer ecosphere has been changing recently.



I hope you don't get knocked for this, Microsoft are seriously lacking right now. At one point this gen they will have to sort it out.

me too!  I mean it as a serious observation.  The 360 has been a big success for MS in my view but looking at it impartially they need to be careful they don't loose too much steam around core titles going forward.

I'm sure they're building a lot of stuff for Natal, and it looks likely they can depend on Epic and Valve for some decent titles - but they can't count on them.  Valve could decide to push their entire back catalogue on PS3 if they choose to, they own the IP after all, and Gears aside Epic could easily support PS3, too.  They have Mass Effect, but anything else from Bioware will be multi via EA now.  They have the studio looking after Halo but really I think they need more.

Nintendo and Sony are going to keep pumping out exclusives until the end of their consoles lives, and MS are looking a little lean on ability there, relying on deals with companies who could just as easily decide they want to go multi-platform and build their brand acorss more gamers.

 

It wouldn't be a problem if the 3rd party games they bought/agreement actually stayed exclusive. That would make the library stong enough Bioshock, Splinter Cell (bound to happen), Valve, GTA DLC ect, but gamers KNOW they're going to go to the PS3, so think why bother.

So when next gen starts, and Microsoft buy a bunch of 3rd party exclusives, non "720" owners arnt going to be so quick to pick the console up, they'll just wait for them to enevitably go to the PS4.

I do honestly believe they're going to sort this out soon though, they must know it's an issue.

Playing the 'what if...' game, if I was MS I'd:

1 - focus on Natal launch and making sure it is well supported with titles

2 - use Reach/Gears 3 to keep the hardcore happy into mid 2011

3 - back a few exclusives like Alan Wake

4 - use the back end of the generation to build up more 1st party capability to support the next Xbox

 

After this gen most third parties are probably going to assume a split market again, and accept supporting multiple consoles much earlier in the gen - and current trends clearly show that relying too much on third parties only seems to last so far into a consoles lifecycle if the competition keep up with you (which has been the case).



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

This must be what Pachter kept hinting at that was going to happen at E3.

(Even when he has the info right, he gets the timing wrong).

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CGI-Quality said:
huaxiong90 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Sony hasn't lost anything with them though, as they're continuing to make exclusives for the PS3. They're just sharing their talent a little bit.

And besides, I believe it's just for this one title/potential franchise.

 

If it's a success though, I think they'll make more multiplat games in the future.

I'm sure they'll make more multiplat titles regardless, though not frequently. But the majority of their games will be PlayStation exclusives, be it now and beyond.

Honestly, I bet they're done with Resistance after R3.  Then the franchise will end, or shift to outsourced handheld/spinoff games like Jak has this gen.  They'll probably always do big budget console R&C games for Sony though.

Also worth noting that Ted price mentioned their R&D timetables will be going from 18 months per title to 24 months per title.  Which is great as they'll be extra polished now.



I guess its better than Activision.

Activision/Bungie vs EA/ Insomniac, this could be interesting.

U think Resistance 3 will be announced now?



 

theprof00 said:
obvious. companies who have made their name go multiplat. Lesser known companies are taken under the wing of the console manufacturer, and exclusive.
THat's just how it works. It's been due for Insomniac for a long time.


dito. but on the larger scale of things. this was a busines decision, and i comend them for it. if any bussines is to grow it needs to expand and take owner ship of it's own work. i would have done the same thing.



Awesome can't wait to see what there new IP will be.



Sounded like Resistance 3 is still in the works as a Ps3 exclusive.

A sad day though :(. Think this probably marks the end for Ratchet and Clank for a while, and something new and different with EA.

It must be said though - this is how going multiplat should be handled. No timed exclusive BS or stuff.