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Avinash_Tyagi on 29 November 2007
sinha said:
And let me add that's not a criticism of vgchartz, ioi, or any of the data here, this site is great and I hope it eventually takes NPD down. I just hope it becomes more and more accurate with time (something that requires increasing the number of data sources, hell no numbers can be perfect until the data is from ALL potential sources).

But people are too focused on the pretty numbers when there is a fairly large margin of error in all of this.

 Well if the numbers are off than ioi will adjust the site's numbers, give them time, its not like they can be constantly working on the site



 

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sinha on 29 November 2007
sinha said:

So, this week we have had...


CNBC
360: >310k

Vgchartz
360: 255k

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Nintendo
Wii: 350k
DS: 650k

Vgchartz
Wii: 480k
DS: 395k

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Vgchartz then adjusted the numbers to...

Wii: 421k

DS: 684k

360: 299k


So 360 now at 299k instead of 255k...

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darkdragonblade on 29 November 2007

the 310k figure is for the states only right? If vgcharts tracks places outside of them then why is the figure lower?



naznatips on 29 November 2007
sinha said:
And let me add that's not a criticism of vgchartz, ioi, or any of the data here, this site is great and I hope it eventually takes NPD down. I just hope it becomes more and more accurate with time (something that requires increasing the number of data sources, hell no numbers can be perfect until the data is from ALL potential sources).

But people are too focused on the pretty numbers when there is a fairly large margin of error in all of this.

The mistake you are making is you are assuming this data is from NPD, but Microsoft said it's from "top retailers."  Are these direct reports they got from Walmart and EB Games?  It just seems we don't have enough information on this data to claim it's accurate.  



naznatips on 29 November 2007
naznatips said:
sinha said:
And let me add that's not a criticism of vgchartz, ioi, or any of the data here, this site is great and I hope it eventually takes NPD down. I just hope it becomes more and more accurate with time (something that requires increasing the number of data sources, hell no numbers can be perfect until the data is from ALL potential sources).

But people are too focused on the pretty numbers when there is a fairly large margin of error in all of this.

The mistake you are making is you are assuming this data is from NPD, but Microsoft said it's from "top retailers."  Are these direct reports they got from Walmart and EB Games?  It just seems we don't have enough information on this data to claim it's accurate.  


Also, then we have this statement:


Software sales continue to outpace those of Wii and PS3, with Xbox 360 capturing 54 percent of total software sales at $162 million during October, according to NPD. Wii and PS3 captured 30 percent and 16 percent, respectively.

Obviously the Gafer misinterpreted this.  This isn't sales during black friday week, it's sales during October that Microsoft claimed they outsold both combined.  Which actually makes Microsoft's numbers seem credible again, so I have no problems with them. ^_^



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FishyJoe on 29 November 2007

Sony kind of said the same thing regarding its numbers. They gave estimates based on their top ten retailers.

I'd trust Nintendo's figures because everything they ship gets sold. Since they track shipping, the sales figures should be quite accurate, at least for the Wii.



elnino334 on 29 November 2007

Well I think you have to adjust when the big guns talk because that is what people will go by. They have access to better data then anyone since they know what has shipped and what the demand is etc. For example NPD's numbers will be in line with those by Nintendo and MS else they will make MS and Nintendo seem like liars or people would discredit them. Since the big 3 are awlays quoting NPD it is in their best interest to be within what they are reporting. MIght be bias but that is how it is. Nothing wrong with ioi making adjustment based on the figures provided by the big 3 since they may have a larger sample then ioi.



gebx on 29 November 2007
sinha said:
johnsobas said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212314

apparently 360 outsold PS3 2:1. If that is true then the PS3 numbers are very good, perhaps very slightly overtracked. It would be 155k, obviously there is Canada but probably only has a few thousand considering there is no black friday.

 According to that, "360 software outsold PS3 and Wii software combined."

 Vgchartz has

Wii: 2,521,741

PS3: 943,709

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Total: 3,465,450

 

360: 2,369,203

 

Difference: 1,096,247

 

And apparently it OUTSOLD them combined, not sold the same as, so the actual difference is some number greater than that.


I think the OP screwed up and was referring to October software numbers. Everytime i've read an article on last weeks sale they've all mentioned that the 360 outsold both the PS3 and Wii combined in software for the month of October. 360 54% share, Wii 30%, PS3 16%

No official software numbers have been release by NPD as of yet

Edit - Damn too slow Naz beat me to it!



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sinha on 29 November 2007
mrstickball said:
The issue is that the sources ioi gets data from probably can't track alot of the more "general" american retail stores like K-Mart, Wal-Mart, and such (atleast in my mere opinion).

If ioi couldn't track Wal-Mart, or other general stores, he'd have the most to lose in terms of accuracy from them.

But that's not ioi's fault. He needs to do whatever he can to get ahold of a bigger sample size though, preferably with more "general" retailers like Toys R Us, Wal-Mart, Target, and such.

Exactly, that's the (massive, gaping, obvious) flaw in Sullla's comparison of these sales numbers to polls on gamefaqs.  People on the east coast who vote earlier in a gamefaqs poll probaby have similar tastes to people in the rest of the US.  It would be different if the early voters were all from Japan or Europe, just take a look at how different the top games are in those countries to the US and that should be clear. 

Similarly, 1) Gamestop, 2) large retailers like Wal-Mart, 3) independent stores, and 4) online stores are almost certainly selling to different consumers with different preferences.

 



We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that they [developers] want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so the question is what do you do for the rest of the nine and half years? It's a learning process. - SCEI president Kaz Hirai

It's a virus where you buy it and you play it with your friends and they're like, "Oh my God that's so cool, I'm gonna go buy it." So you stop playing it after two months, but they buy it and they stop playing it after two months but they've showed it to someone else who then go out and buy it and so on. Everyone I know bought one and nobody turns it on. - Epic Games president Mike Capps

We have a real culture of thrift. The goal that I had in bringing a lot of the packaged goods folks into Activision about 10 years ago was to take all the fun out of making video games. - Activision CEO Bobby Kotick

 

naznatips on 29 November 2007

Yeah, now that the software claim has been cleared up I believe Microsoft's numbers.