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Smashchu2 on 28 May 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Smashchu2 said:
I guess it depends on how you look at it. It did sell 4million, which is good.

I, myself, would say it did bad though. When compared to the other Sony FF, it sold the worst (even under X-2). And sales for the US were rather low for it. It was also said to put the PS3 on the map, but it didn't. You may also question how much was lost on this game, and could they have made more money doing other things in the 4 years it took to develop.

Your problem is you don't look at the big picture.

FFXII first week - 2.8mill

FFXIII (PS3) first week total - 2.7mill

If we take that into account, especially considering the userbase difference (if we want to go that route), FFXIII has performed very well (remember, this is without the inclusion of 360 sales). A nice chunk of "would be PS3/FFXIII owners" have 360s and bought it there instead. But looking at the totals, FFXIII is going to outperform XII with ease.

Between the two, it could reach 7mill, which would put it in FFX territory (meaning the 360's sales account for the splitting of the userbase). The sales are good and will exceed both XII & X-2.

Edit: XIII (altogether) has already topped X-2.

My bad, didn't include 360 sales.

The thing is first week means nothing anymore. You never look at first week for success because it is not a good indicator of success or long term results. Too often do games have a strong 1st week and then just drop off. Mario Party 8 is a good example. And Carnival Games. And let's not forget about Just Dance. It is just not relevant.

You have to take into account that compaired to other FF, it's not preforming as well, esspecially as ot was claimed to do so much. It's sales are good, but I consider it a failure in the context of other FF games.

 



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Solid_Snake4RD on 28 May 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Smashchu2 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Smashchu2 said:
I guess it depends on how you look at it. It did sell 4million, which is good.

I, myself, would say it did bad though. When compared to the other Sony FF, it sold the worst (even under X-2). And sales for the US were rather low for it. It was also said to put the PS3 on the map, but it didn't. You may also question how much was lost on this game, and could they have made more money doing other things in the 4 years it took to develop.

Your problem is you don't look at the big picture.

FFXII first week - 2.8mill

FFXIII (PS3) first week total - 2.7mill

If we take that into account, especially considering the userbase difference (if we want to go that route), FFXIII has performed very well (remember, this is without the inclusion of 360 sales). A nice chunk of "would be PS3/FFXIII owners" have 360s and bought it there instead. But looking at the totals, FFXIII is going to outperform XII with ease.

Between the two, it could reach 7mill, which would put it in FFX territory (meaning the 360's sales account for the splitting of the userbase). The sales are good and will exceed both XII & X-2.

Edit: XIII (altogether) has already topped X-2.

My bad, didn't include 360 sales.

The thing is first week means nothing anymore. You never look at first week for success because it is not a good indicator of success or long term results. Too often do games have a strong 1st week and then just drop off. Mario Party 8 is a good example. And Carnival Games. And let's not forget about Just Dance. It is just not relevant.

You have to take into account that compaired to other FF, it's not preforming as well, esspecially as ot was claimed to do so much. It's sales are good, but I consider it a failure in the context of other FF games.

 

"Other" FF games have their lifetime totals in. FFXIII is still selling, when the dust settles FFXIII will have performed welll, relative to current gen circumstances.

if you look at the current gen,then all games are also selling very well

 

and don't tell me that this is not an RPG genereation and so it didn't sell well

 

 

FF13 sold well but not according to the expectations and the hype,it just underperformed.and remember there were price cuts for FF13 after 2nd week

lifetime totals might be big but the profit is reduced from price cuts



perpride on 28 May 2010

umm....anyone who knows how much FFXIII has sold and still says that it has flopped doesn't have any idea what they are talking about.



Solid_Snake4RD on 28 May 2010
perpride said:
umm....anyone who knows how much FFXIII has sold and still says that it has flopped doesn't have any idea what they are talking about.

mnay who are saying that don't mean flop in technical english word meaning but in the sense that it didn't perform upto expectations



jarrod on 28 May 2010

FFXIII sales are fine.  Really, they're right in line with what most sane people predicted and they're still going to hit Square Enix's (revised?) predictions.  It might be seen as a bit disappointing relative to franchise standards, or relative to the massive investment to game had, but considering how this generation's shaken out, it's really not bad in the scheme of things and definitely could've been worse.   IF SE/Kitase knew 4 years ago what they know now, they probably would've handled things differently sure, but that's a bit beside the point.



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jarrod on 28 May 2010
CGI-Quality said:
jarrod said:

FFXIII sales are fine.  Really, they're right in line with what most sane people predicted and they're still going to hit Square Enix's (revised?) predictions.  It might be seen as a bit disappointing relative to franchise standards, or relative to the massive investment to game had, but considering how this generation's shaken out, it's really not bad in the scheme of things and definitely could've been worse.   IF SE/Kitase knew 4 years ago what they know now, they probably would've handled things differently sure, but that's a bit beside the point.

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Smashchu2 on 28 May 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
CGI-Quality said:
Smashchu2 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Smashchu2 said:
I guess it depends on how you look at it. It did sell 4million, which is good.

I, myself, would say it did bad though. When compared to the other Sony FF, it sold the worst (even under X-2). And sales for the US were rather low for it. It was also said to put the PS3 on the map, but it didn't. You may also question how much was lost on this game, and could they have made more money doing other things in the 4 years it took to develop.

Your problem is you don't look at the big picture.

FFXII first week - 2.8mill

FFXIII (PS3) first week total - 2.7mill

If we take that into account, especially considering the userbase difference (if we want to go that route), FFXIII has performed very well (remember, this is without the inclusion of 360 sales). A nice chunk of "would be PS3/FFXIII owners" have 360s and bought it there instead. But looking at the totals, FFXIII is going to outperform XII with ease.

Between the two, it could reach 7mill, which would put it in FFX territory (meaning the 360's sales account for the splitting of the userbase). The sales are good and will exceed both XII & X-2.

Edit: XIII (altogether) has already topped X-2.

My bad, didn't include 360 sales.

The thing is first week means nothing anymore. You never look at first week for success because it is not a good indicator of success or long term results. Too often do games have a strong 1st week and then just drop off. Mario Party 8 is a good example. And Carnival Games. And let's not forget about Just Dance. It is just not relevant.

You have to take into account that compaired to other FF, it's not preforming as well, esspecially as ot was claimed to do so much. It's sales are good, but I consider it a failure in the context of other FF games.

 

"Other" FF games have their lifetime totals in. FFXIII is still selling, when the dust settles FFXIII will have performed welll, relative to current gen circumstances.

if you look at the current gen,then all games are also selling very well

 

and don't tell me that this is not an RPG genereation and so it didn't sell well

 

 

FF13 sold well but not according to the expectations and the hype,it just underperformed.and remember there were price cuts for FF13 after 2nd week

lifetime totals might be big but the profit is reduced from price cuts

A. Looking at all games, no, all games haven't done well.

B. I'm not sure what your second sentence nmeans, or how it relates to anything I've posted.

C. I don't recall many predicting much higher than current sales. (5mill for PS3, 2 mill for 360). Both are likely to reach those targets.

D. Completely irrelevant.

What!? Are you insane? That is the sole reason these companies make video games. Why else would they do it?



TC_Squared on 28 May 2010

It sold well compared to the average game. It sold poorly compared to the average Final Fantasy game.



Wonktonodi on 28 May 2010

How much did SE ship to Japan anyway? Had they shipped way more than they could sell and had to massively reduce the price to sell them all. That would be a flop. Considering that it sold what they shipped I'm pretty sure it did what SE was expecting.

It's one thing to say it sold less than previous ones. Yes it has. One also needs to consider that those had years to sell, most the sales are earlier but it is by no means all of them.



jarrod on 28 May 2010
Wonktonodi said:
How much did SE ship to Japan anyway? Had they shipped way more than they could sell and had to massively reduce the price to sell them all. That would be a flop. Considering that it sold what they shipped I'm pretty sure it did what SE was expecting.

It's one thing to say it sold less than previous ones. Yes it has. One also needs to consider that those had years to sell, most the sales are earlier but it is by no means all of them.

Evidently almost all the outlets (Famitsu/Enterbrain, Media Create) overtracked it considering it they all said sellthrough was higher than what SE ended up reported shipping (oops!) and many retailers did massively reduce the price (800 yen new was the last bottom-bomba figure reported iirc).  Japan was a disappointment from all angles, no question.  But thankfully western sales made up for that, which was something Wada said was likely to happen beforehand.

I still think killing the JP 360 release was a mistake though.  I bet a 360 version would've netted around 200k from collectors, completionists, otakus and westerners living in Japan, with little to no impact on PS3 sales (maybe 50k less at most), and would've pushed the game overall over the 2m threshold.  And had FFXIII sold over 2m in Japan, I think a lot of this "flop" talk would've disappeared...