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caz604 on 24 May 2010

Just to add to the discussion, you know goalposts and stuff need to be defined.

Definition of flop:

2.To fail completely, not to be successful at all (about a movie, play, book, song etc.).
The latest album flopped and so the studio canceled her contract.

OT: So how can anyone say that the game flopped in Japan? Did we hear from SE, yet? Only they can truly say if the game flopped or not. I believe depending on the parameters one looks at, it sold well.



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Scoobes on 24 May 2010

It sold as expected. It didn't sell well, but it didn't sell badly either.




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BMaker11 on 24 May 2010
dtewi said:
kingofwale said:

for the quality of the game, it sold well. Translation: it sold purely on brand name.... and hence failed to expand the market.

remember the key word: QUALITY.

I shall not mention the possible cause of such lack of "quality", it is for another time, another thread.

I'm getting tired of all of you complaining about how FF13 sucked because of the 360.

Shut up.

Nowhere in that post did he say anything about the 360. But I'll take the initiative, since you seem to get worked up from out of nowhere. Based on Metacritic:

FFVII: 92

FFXVIII: 90

FFIX: 94

FFX: 92

FFXII: 92

FFXIII: ......83 (82 on the 360 version and only an 80 on GameRankings)

I'm going to say it was rated lower based on game design changes and gameplay elements that didn't ring with traditional FF fans. But from a pure bystander POV, you see that since 1997, it's the lowest rated one, and also the only multiplatform one, so...............

(oh, and I didn't include X-2 because that was simply fan service riding off the success of X, and many of the assets in X were reused in X-2)



dtewi on 24 May 2010
BMaker11 said:
dtewi said:
kingofwale said:

for the quality of the game, it sold well. Translation: it sold purely on brand name.... and hence failed to expand the market.

remember the key word: QUALITY.

I shall not mention the possible cause of such lack of "quality", it is for another time, another thread.

I'm getting tired of all of you complaining about how FF13 sucked because of the 360.

Shut up.

Nowhere in that post did he say anything about the 360. But I'll take the initiative, since you seem to get worked up from out of nowhere

FFVII: 92

FFXVIII: 90

FFIX: 94

FFX: 92

FFXII: 92

FFXIII: ......83 (82 on the 360 version lol)

I'm going to say it was rated lower based on game design changes and gameplay elements that didn't ring with traditional FF fans. But from a pure bystander POV, you see that since 1997, it's the lowest rated one, and also the only multiplatform one, so...............

(oh, and I didn't include X-2 because that was simply fan service riding off the success of X, and many of the assets in X were reused in X-2)

Given kingofwale's posting history, the implications of that post, the fact he didn't respond when I asked him directly, and there have been numerous threads about FF13 sucking due to the 360, he pretty much said that "FF13 sucks due to the 360".

Also... you're ripping on FF13 for what reason?

I never said it was bad or good (I think it's good), but I'm just annoyed since some people are thinking FF13 was lackluster due to the 360.



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Solid_Snake4RD on 24 May 2010
Acevil said:
AkibaFan said:
thts whtt I was saying to expctation & dev cost it is a flop in jpn bt no1 ws listening to me,

A flop is typically judged by Revenue - Development Cost - Marketing cost, and I highly doubt that selling near to 2 million in Japan resulted in a flop. Is it the worse selling mainline Final Fantasy in Japan (maybe so), however it did not flop....

ACEVIL,it might not have been  a flop from technical standpoint but if you take into account what AKIBAFAN means here then it makes some sense

 

not in the english literature but from FF13 expectation,it was a let-down

 

so please try to understnad what he meant and not the technical english word



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Solid_Snake4RD on 24 May 2010
Teo said:
AkibaFan said:
ppl misundertood my jpn sales of ff13 statement.

s-e is bck to square 1 with ff13 as its worst selling since ff6, do u knw hw bad tht is? they lost all gains the frnchise made over last 18 years. and re-releses still wnt get it past ff6 sales.

What you are not understanding is the fact that FFXIII was not sold for The PS1 or the PS2.

FF10 wasn't released on a 100m PS2 userbase but on a 20m userbase so don't even start that argument here

akiba is just rying to say according to the hype,expectations and name at the start of this gen,it was a let down



AkibaFan on 24 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Acevil said:
AkibaFan said:
thts whtt I was saying to expctation & dev cost it is a flop in jpn bt no1 ws listening to me,

A flop is typically judged by Revenue - Development Cost - Marketing cost, and I highly doubt that selling near to 2 million in Japan resulted in a flop. Is it the worse selling mainline Final Fantasy in Japan (maybe so), however it did not flop....

ACEVIL,it might not have been  a flop from technical standpoint but if you take into account what AKIBAFAN means here then it makes some sense

 

not in the english literature but from FF13 expectation,it was a let-down

 

so please try to understnad what he meant and not the technical english word

thnk u for defnding me. FF13 ddnt sell like a first FF of the gen FF in jpn, due to this worldwide sales for it luk less impressive thn they shud because in west it is seling like the first ff of a gen, jpn let the game down

in comparisn to wht was expcted of it in jpn it did flop. quality wise i hve no complaints, its a amazing game bt sales wise we must accept being the lowest selling ff in jpn isnt gud at all, its horrible.

i hope others understood me like u did solid snake 4RD.



Solid_Snake4RD on 24 May 2010
Scoobes said:
It sold as expected. It didn't sell well, but it didn't sell badly either.

not as expected but well for it



jarrod on 24 May 2010
Scoobes said:
It sold as expected. It didn't sell well, but it didn't sell badly either.

Pretty much this.  Underperformed a bit in Japan, did a little better than expected in Europe, nice American launch but terrible legs.  Overall it seems to be about what everyone (sane) predicted though.



Solid_Snake4RD on 24 May 2010
dtewi said:
BMaker11 said:
dtewi said:
kingofwale said:

for the quality of the game, it sold well. Translation: it sold purely on brand name.... and hence failed to expand the market.

remember the key word: QUALITY.

I shall not mention the possible cause of such lack of "quality", it is for another time, another thread.

I'm getting tired of all of you complaining about how FF13 sucked because of the 360.

Shut up.

Nowhere in that post did he say anything about the 360. But I'll take the initiative, since you seem to get worked up from out of nowhere

FFVII: 92

FFXVIII: 90

FFIX: 94

FFX: 92

FFXII: 92

FFXIII: ......83 (82 on the 360 version lol)

I'm going to say it was rated lower based on game design changes and gameplay elements that didn't ring with traditional FF fans. But from a pure bystander POV, you see that since 1997, it's the lowest rated one, and also the only multiplatform one, so...............

(oh, and I didn't include X-2 because that was simply fan service riding off the success of X, and many of the assets in X were reused in X-2)

Given kingofwale's posting history, the implications of that post, the fact he didn't respond when I asked him directly, and there have been numerous threads about FF13 sucking due to the 360, he pretty much said that "FF13 sucks due to the 360".

Also... you're ripping on FF13 for what reason?

I never said it was bad or good (I think it's good), but I'm just annoyed since some people are thinking FF13 was lackluster due to the 360.

many people din't mean it was because of 360 but you tought they did

 

another thin as the gen progresses the standards of game increases,so many tought that a game of quality of 2008 launch was released in 2009-2010 year which compared to current standards fell

not that 360 made that happen,just that they took an year to put it on 360 to the 2008 level of PS3 but they should have also made improvements in both versions to bring them to 2009-10 quality levels is what many meant