thelifatree said:
A203D said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
First of all, the link you just provided me was to another magazine interview. Not an investors briefing. Second of all, stating to the press or stating to investors you want a game to sell a certain amount wasn't my main point here. My main point was each title, they keep pumping more and more money into the advertising and funding of each game. As if they EXPECT it to sell more. They can say to either their investors, magazines or Jack Thompson for all it matters that they expect it to sell a certain amount, but their effort shows that they want it to perform better.
If someone sells 100 apples by putting forth $10 in advertising, and then turns around and sells only 80 apples with $50 woth of advertising, they can't say it was all 'as planned'
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Yeah i think your on to something with that; i mean you really think that Wada, Kitase & the FF team said to themselves, lets spend all this time and money on a game that dosent exceed what we did before. i'm not saying they set out with the goal of outselling FF7, but i think it was something they had thought about. and i bet they spent loads on advertising.
i think it was on finalfantasy.net or somthing, i have heard rumours that wada wanted to surpass the sales of FF7, but he never provided a figure, i think after it became unrealistic he brought that figure down to 6 mil. in that release data trailer, Kitase said that FF13 will exceed all expectations and the presenter mentioned how FF13 was possibily the most anticipated game of all time. theres no doubt in my mind they wanted to top FF7.
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I agree, with what your saying. because, ofcourse they wanted it to sell as much as 7 (if I'm not mistaken Square-Enix's) best selling game. You don't hope for it to sell less. And when you create something... just being an artist myself... sometimes you think you created something great, and then a lot of people don't like it etc.. so you get excited.
However, I don't know what wada does besides running the company or how much influence he has on the actual game. But Kitase and the FF team, were probably proud of their work so, you get a little hyped up, about what you did, granted... I love FFXIII to death, but I understand why many don't.
And one more thing. FF7 was the spearheaded (with about 5 games I think) of 100 million dollar advertising campaign paid for by sony. And I'm pretty certain that's the biggest ad campaign FF's had. And theirs rumors though I'm not sure whats true is that Microsoft paid for some of the FFXIII commercials.
@ Kenryoku, SE wanted FF to outsell 7 since 7 that's a logical thing to want. But that is not SE as a company expectation. They're not expecting it to outperform what they expect, because their marketing people get paid to project sales, as with any company, and a responsible company which I'd assume SE is as they have made money for atleast the past 3 years. You don't base company prosperity on unrealistic goals. Because It's irresponsible to be like a baseball player thinking I'm going to hit a home run off this pitch, or I fail. That would be the equivalent to SE expecting it to outsell FF7.
Hell for 2 examples from nintendo that would fit your staggering decline definition are 3D mario, and Zelda
3D Mario, Mario 64 11.89m, Mario Sunshine 6.28m, Mario Galaxy 8.62m, did nintendo expect each of them to outsell mario 64?
Zelda OoT 7.6m, Majora's Mask 3.36, Wind Waker 4.55m, Twilight princess 7.08m, did nintento expect each of them to outsell OoT?
Metroid fits the patern as well, but in terms of sales it's never been close to FF's or 3D mario or Zelda.
So by your description of Final Fantasy being on the decline. That would mean Zelda and 3D mario are as well. And Nintendo and Square Enix have never achieved what they expected in those games since, Mario 64, OoT, and FF7.
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