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The Xbox Man on 14 May 2010

I don't think they are, where the PS3 is right now wasn't a part of their original plan for sure



    
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darthdevidem01 on 14 May 2010
CGI-Quality said:
darthdevidem01 said:
STEKSTAV said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
To be honest, 891 million to a company like Sony isn't as bad as it sounds, especially considering the PS3 hardware itself is apparently profiting at this point. Things are looking WAY up for Sony, and with the D-listing of the PS2 from NPD, I imagine all focus will now go to PSP and the PS3.

I agree. 


Basically I tend to think of it like this.

 

Say you have 2 kids... and they are brilliant Straight A's, both are going to be Doctors.

Then you have your third kid.  Your clearly going to think he's going to be smart too... but he isn't.  He ends up getting D's and F's on his report cards... and you get him some help etc... so now he's getting C+ and B-s. 

He's not going to be a doctor and as "big" of a success as your other children... but your happy that atleast he's on his way to being Ok, and not living with you in the basement until he's 45.

But with a B he'd still be able to do charity work, volunteer in the 3rd world. He might even start a successful business or become a great football player that gives tons of money to orphans. He could become and artist or an actor that makes millions of dollars that he chose to spend on his ageing father and on research to improve the health care of the country. So now tell me, which kid is more successful? The two who spend a lifetime paying the bills from medical school, or the one helping the world become a better place? ;D

ermm no, those bills can be paid off pretty easily after around 4-5 years of practising as a doctor if you decide to make direct payments back, so not a "lifetime".

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On topic:

Yes SONY will probably not break even on it. But in terms of quality titles, sales  & so on sony should be extremely happy. Not to mention almost every profit they are making off blu-ray is due to the PS3!

I think you mean recoup all the losses. At this point, they're either making money on it (if some of the recent articles hold any validity) or are about to.

yeah thats what I meant, you know me too well , I don't see them making back the what 4 billion(?) lost

But to me as a gamer it doesn't matter because as a first party for me they have delivered in the best way this gen.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

Tridrakious on 14 May 2010

While PS3, PSP, PS2 and PlayStation Home are profitable.

They still have their technology behind 3D, PlayStation Move to pay for.

Anyways if I read the reports right, Sony's game division was profitable in it's last 2 quarters of FY 2010, but it wasn't able to offset the losses from the first 2 quarters.



STEKSTAV on 14 May 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
STEKSTAV said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
To be honest, 891 million to a company like Sony isn't as bad as it sounds, especially considering the PS3 hardware itself is apparently profiting at this point. Things are looking WAY up for Sony, and with the D-listing of the PS2 from NPD, I imagine all focus will now go to PSP and the PS3.

I agree. 


Basically I tend to think of it like this.

 

Say you have 2 kids... and they are brilliant Straight A's, both are going to be Doctors.

Then you have your third kid.  Your clearly going to think he's going to be smart too... but he isn't.  He ends up getting D's and F's on his report cards... and you get him some help etc... so now he's getting C+ and B-s. 

He's not going to be a doctor and as "big" of a success as your other children... but your happy that atleast he's on his way to being Ok, and not living with you in the basement until he's 45.

But with a B he'd still be able to do charity work, volunteer in the 3rd world. He might even start a successful business or become a great football player that gives tons of money to orphans. He could become and artist or an actor that makes millions of dollars that he chose to spend on his ageing father and on research to improve the health care of the country. So now tell me, which kid is more successful? The two who spend a lifetime paying the bills from medical school, or the one helping the world become a better place? ;D

ermm no, those bills can be paid off pretty easily after around 4-5 years of practising as a doctor if you decide to make direct payments back, so not a "lifetime".

_________________________

On topic:

Yes SONY will probably not break even on it. But in terms of quality titles, sales  & so on sony should be extremely happy. Not to mention almost every profit they are making off blu-ray is due to the PS3!


Im not sure what country you live in, or what type of medical school you're refering to. But you cant pay off a 8 year education in 4 years unless you're still living at home with no expenses and got your license from a trial and error clinic in tijuana.

Still. that wasnt the moral of the story. Success is relative.



hsrob on 14 May 2010

Happy compared to where PS3 was two years ago, I would hope so. Happy with the PS3 compared to expectations for it at the end of last gen, definitely not.



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darthdevidem01 on 14 May 2010
STEKSTAV said:
darthdevidem01 said:
STEKSTAV said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
To be honest, 891 million to a company like Sony isn't as bad as it sounds, especially considering the PS3 hardware itself is apparently profiting at this point. Things are looking WAY up for Sony, and with the D-listing of the PS2 from NPD, I imagine all focus will now go to PSP and the PS3.

I agree. 


Basically I tend to think of it like this.

 

Say you have 2 kids... and they are brilliant Straight A's, both are going to be Doctors.

Then you have your third kid.  Your clearly going to think he's going to be smart too... but he isn't.  He ends up getting D's and F's on his report cards... and you get him some help etc... so now he's getting C+ and B-s. 

He's not going to be a doctor and as "big" of a success as your other children... but your happy that atleast he's on his way to being Ok, and not living with you in the basement until he's 45.

But with a B he'd still be able to do charity work, volunteer in the 3rd world. He might even start a successful business or become a great football player that gives tons of money to orphans. He could become and artist or an actor that makes millions of dollars that he chose to spend on his ageing father and on research to improve the health care of the country. So now tell me, which kid is more successful? The two who spend a lifetime paying the bills from medical school, or the one helping the world become a better place? ;D

ermm no, those bills can be paid off pretty easily after around 4-5 years of practising as a doctor if you decide to make direct payments back, so not a "lifetime".

_________________________

On topic:

Yes SONY will probably not break even on it. But in terms of quality titles, sales  & so on sony should be extremely happy. Not to mention almost every profit they are making off blu-ray is due to the PS3!


Im not sure what country you live in, or what type of medical school you're refering to. But you cant pay off a 8 year education in 4 years unless you're still living at home with no expenses and got your license from a trial and error clinic in tijuana.

Still. that wasnt the moral of the story. Success is relative.

My degree is going to be 5 years long, with £3,200 per year. The tuition fee loan will be the only one I take from the government. So that'll be around £16,000 in total for the 5 years. I'm not sure what the starting pay will be, probably 20K a year to start with.....if I really wanted to I could pay back the loan by the time 4 years are completed. But I won't have to because of in UK the loan gets automatically paid off through the tax you pay to the government. But you have the option of voluntary payback.

so it definetely isn't the "lifetime" you said here.

And yeah success is relative, but his analogy was fine for the situation.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

Kratos_36 on 14 May 2010


STEKSTAV on 14 May 2010
darthdevidem01 said:
STEKSTAV said:
darthdevidem01 said:
STEKSTAV said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
To be honest, 891 million to a company like Sony isn't as bad as it sounds, especially considering the PS3 hardware itself is apparently profiting at this point. Things are looking WAY up for Sony, and with the D-listing of the PS2 from NPD, I imagine all focus will now go to PSP and the PS3.

I agree. 


Basically I tend to think of it like this.

 

Say you have 2 kids... and they are brilliant Straight A's, both are going to be Doctors.

Then you have your third kid.  Your clearly going to think he's going to be smart too... but he isn't.  He ends up getting D's and F's on his report cards... and you get him some help etc... so now he's getting C+ and B-s. 

He's not going to be a doctor and as "big" of a success as your other children... but your happy that atleast he's on his way to being Ok, and not living with you in the basement until he's 45.

But with a B he'd still be able to do charity work, volunteer in the 3rd world. He might even start a successful business or become a great football player that gives tons of money to orphans. He could become and artist or an actor that makes millions of dollars that he chose to spend on his ageing father and on research to improve the health care of the country. So now tell me, which kid is more successful? The two who spend a lifetime paying the bills from medical school, or the one helping the world become a better place? ;D

ermm no, those bills can be paid off pretty easily after around 4-5 years of practising as a doctor if you decide to make direct payments back, so not a "lifetime".

_________________________

On topic:

Yes SONY will probably not break even on it. But in terms of quality titles, sales  & so on sony should be extremely happy. Not to mention almost every profit they are making off blu-ray is due to the PS3!


Im not sure what country you live in, or what type of medical school you're refering to. But you cant pay off a 8 year education in 4 years unless you're still living at home with no expenses and got your license from a trial and error clinic in tijuana.

Still. that wasnt the moral of the story. Success is relative.

My degree is going to be 5 years long, with £3,200 per year. The tuition fee loan will be the only one I take from the government. So that'll be around £16,000 in total for the 5 years. I'm not sure what the starting pay will be, probably 20K a year to start with.....if I really wanted to I could pay back the loan by the time 4 years are completed. But I won't have to because of in UK the loan gets automatically paid off through the tax you pay to the government. But you have the option of voluntary payback.

so it definetely isn't the "lifetime" you said here.

And yeah success is relative, but his analogy was fine for the situation.

This is going from a analogy, to a joke, to serious bizniz.. im out. Well played. <3



homer on 14 May 2010

They probably wish it was like his two older brothers.



"Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth." -My good friend Mark Aurelius

Kratos_36 on 14 May 2010

I think they are.
You see , Japanese company's are looking completely different to their company.
They plan everything into many more years to make a profit. Western company's are looking to make a profit every year. They are looking to the next financial year.
The Japanese are looking to the next decade.
The Ps3 didn't sold as well as they hoped it would be , but it did it's job.

They used the Ps3 to give HD and Blu-ray a boost. The Ps3 was an investment to Sony.

They also didn't expected that they would make profit the first 2/3 years of it's life time.
They want to let many more devisions of Sony to profit from the Ps3.
Now they are well on the way to make Blu-ray the new standard , it helps push Bravia sales , Blu-ray player sales , it will help the movie devision of Sony , it will boost their sound system sales.

Because without the Ps3 , blu-ray would never be the standard in the next 10/15 years. I think within 4 years , BR is the new standard.
The Japanese business thought's are way different than the goals , thoughts and strategies of the western market.
Sony uses their devisions to work as one company to let them work together on the long term and they will make huge profits as one company.

Keep in mind that the Japanese are probaly the best economics and traders in the world. They where much more settled and civilized than we 'the western world' were 1400 years ago espessialy on the economic development.

Also , they set the basis for an online gaming community and much more for the next 10/15 year with the Playstation Network with the Ps3.
They won't have to develop a new network for the next 10/15 years. They can use it on their laptops , music players (like iTunes) , mobile phones , next gen internet TV's , next gen consoles and other portable gaming devices.
Sony just set the basics for the next few decades.

Also , 891 million isn't much for a company that has estimited 120-150 billion dollar.
That's like having 130 dollar , and then you lose 90 cent.
And the thing is , if the planning works , you would make that 90 cents you lost back many more times in the next 10 years.

So the bottom line ,
Sony is most likely happy with the Ps3. Things aren't going like it whas really planned (Blu-ray doesn't get the new standard as soon as they hoped and Ps3 sales where expected to be bigger) but the basis for the next decade is almost set for Sony.