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Boutros on 14 May 2010
Christian973 said:
Boutros said:
mai said:

Boutros said:

Wait I never said DS is for kid, I just said it's the gaming device that appeals the most to childrens.

You just repharsed old mantra =)

Anyways we're getting off the point of the argument. You're suggesting that DS just by the fact it's portable is appeal to bigger userbase. That was your point, you didn't specify any details about what userbase or how different from PS2 userbase it is. Now you're suggesting it appeals the most to children which I find kinda countreproductive for Nintendo and contradictive to your initial claim, since if we're to follow US census results it's better to appeal to 35-45 y.o. rather than children. Those age groups are majority of US population, not kids. How could DS "appeals the most to children" and have potentially bigger audience than PS2 at the same time?

Because kids like video games more than adults and they have more time to play them lol

I never saw an adult with a DS. The older I've seen is like 20 years old.

Are you kidding me? How much evidence and proof do you need? After 2 pages you still don't get it?

No I'm not kidding, hence why I'm not funny.

There's nothing to understand. That's the thing. I've been saying since the beginning that this is my opinion and it won't change because people disagree.



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mai on 14 May 2010

Boutros said:

No I don't retract anything. The portable aspect makes it more accessible than a home console where you need a place to play and a TV. My brother bought a PSP exclusively because he's travelling in bus a lot and he needed something to do while waiting.

So are you saying that portable PS2 would have sold more? Why then PSP (=Poratble PlayStation) is selling worse than PS2? =)



thetonestarr on 14 May 2010
Boutros said:
thetonestarr said:
Boutros said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Boutros said:
Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 said:
Boutros said:
*Portable* Console



Because: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console

Still a console. It's like separating Laptops from Desktop PC's.

I never considered handhelds and consoles the same. It's different market.

It's more like comparing a Mac with a Ipod.

Technically , they are consoles with their own screen and power source....so they are consoles just portable.

And that analogy is horrendous...a mac is a fully functional computer while the Ipod/touch is just a multimedia device.....the Ipod/touch cant do all the things a mac can do.

The DS can play games.....just like the rest of the home consoles.

Going by your logic, we should consider the Tamagotchi as a console.

Except you missed two incredibly important words in his statement and went straight for the last line.

"fully functional".

I'd like you to come up with a single gaming feature that ANY home console offers that the DS can't.

Controllers, motion controls, downloadable content, local multiplayer, great graphics and so on. There's a lot of difference.

But a console is not only for games you see. I personally bought my PS3 for the blu-ray at first which shows it might appeal to a different market while handhelds are exclusively for gaming on the go.

(1) DS has the "controller" built in.

(2) There are multiple DS titles with motion controls

(3) Hello, DSiware. And even if this didn't exist, DLC is only a feature of current-gen systems. How about the previous six gens - INCLUDING the PS2, which this discussion is primarily about? Are you going to disqualify all of those for not having these features?

(4) DS offers up to 16-player local multiplayer.

 

And the DS has Internet browsing, online/wireless chat, educational services, MP3 playing, art programs, etc. It's not just a gaming machine either, as you attempt to claim.



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Smashchu2 on 14 May 2010
Boutros said:
morenoingrato said:
that portable consaole is an excuse, if you say portables sell better why didn't any portable made it as far as nintendo portable

Because the DS is a good handheld just like the PS2 was a good console. I'm just saying you can't compare both product.

Just look at the price. That's a good enough difference.

 

Anyway, I know a lot of people who doesn't like handhelds (including me) simply because it's a different experience (and not a fun one). And it doesn't matter whether it's the DS or the PSP or the iPod Touch, I dislike them all. Except for Pokémon.

You have yet to give a good reason why we should consider consoles and handhelds in different categories.

Price is not a seperater of category. Cars have a large range of prices, but they are all cars and have the same purpose, to drive you around. The same is true of video game systems as people buy the system to play software. They have the same purpose so when comparing what system a consumer wants to buy, they will consider handhelds and consoles becuase they both fulfill the same goal. It is that distinction that counts.



mai on 14 May 2010

Boutros said:

There's nothing to understand. That's the thing. I've been saying since the beginning that this is my opinion and it won't change because people disagree.

Wow, "opinion", is this some kind of a code for "I prefer to be delusional"? Pardon me, I thougt we're not in religious discussion. Well, feel free to believe in what you chose to believe =)



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Boutros on 14 May 2010
mai said:

Boutros said:

No I don't retract anything. The portable aspect makes it more accessible than a home console where you need a place to play and a TV. My brother bought a PSP exclusively because he's travelling in bus a lot and he needed something to do while waiting.

So are you saying that portable PS2 would have sold more? Why then PSP (=Poratble PlayStation) is selling worse than PS2? =)

Because the DS won the handheld competition, just like the PS2 won the console competition of it's era and just like the Wii is winning right now.



Christian973 on 14 May 2010
Boutros said:
Christian973 said:
Boutros said:
mai said:

Boutros said:

Wait I never said DS is for kid, I just said it's the gaming device that appeals the most to childrens.

You just repharsed old mantra =)

Anyways we're getting off the point of the argument. You're suggesting that DS just by the fact it's portable is appeal to bigger userbase. That was your point, you didn't specify any details about what userbase or how different from PS2 userbase it is. Now you're suggesting it appeals the most to children which I find kinda countreproductive for Nintendo and contradictive to your initial claim, since if we're to follow US census results it's better to appeal to 35-45 y.o. rather than children. Those age groups are majority of US population, not kids. How could DS "appeals the most to children" and have potentially bigger audience than PS2 at the same time?

Because kids like video games more than adults and they have more time to play them lol

I never saw an adult with a DS. The older I've seen is like 20 years old.

Are you kidding me? How much evidence and proof do you need? After 2 pages you still don't get it?

No I'm not kidding, hence why I'm not funny.

There's nothing to understand. That's the thing. I've been saying since the beginning that this is my opinion and it won't change because people disagree.

Alright it's your opinion even though it's a really invalid one at that. People aren't trying to disagree with you, they are actually stating facts. Just because YOU don't see a portable and a console the same doesn't mean the industry doesn't view both of them the same.



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Boutros on 14 May 2010
thetonestarr said:
Boutros said:
thetonestarr said:
Boutros said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
Boutros said:
Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 said:
Boutros said:
*Portable* Console



Because: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console

Still a console. It's like separating Laptops from Desktop PC's.

I never considered handhelds and consoles the same. It's different market.

It's more like comparing a Mac with a Ipod.

Technically , they are consoles with their own screen and power source....so they are consoles just portable.

And that analogy is horrendous...a mac is a fully functional computer while the Ipod/touch is just a multimedia device.....the Ipod/touch cant do all the things a mac can do.

The DS can play games.....just like the rest of the home consoles.

Going by your logic, we should consider the Tamagotchi as a console.

Except you missed two incredibly important words in his statement and went straight for the last line.

"fully functional".

I'd like you to come up with a single gaming feature that ANY home console offers that the DS can't.

Controllers, motion controls, downloadable content, local multiplayer, great graphics and so on. There's a lot of difference.

But a console is not only for games you see. I personally bought my PS3 for the blu-ray at first which shows it might appeal to a different market while handhelds are exclusively for gaming on the go.

(1) DS has the "controller" built in.

(2) There are multiple DS titles with motion controls

(3) Hello, DSiware. And even if this didn't exist, DLC is only a feature of current-gen systems. How about the previous six gens - INCLUDING the PS2, which this discussion is primarily about? Are you going to disqualify all of those for not having these features?

(4) DS offers up to 16-player local multiplayer.

 

And the DS has Internet browsing, online/wireless chat, educational services, MP3 playing, art programs, etc. It's not just a gaming machine either, as you attempt to claim.

http://vgchartz.com/forum/post.php?post=3405879&page=1&postnum=34

I don't have much more to say. It's just not the same to me.



Boutros on 14 May 2010

Ok I won't reply to everybody but here's a summary of my thought:

Different experience.



But I have a question, should we consider the PC on the same level as a console and a handheld? Based on what some of you are saying, we should and then the PC is best selling console.



Siko1989 on 14 May 2010

anyway its obvious that the DS is gonna be the top selling platform of all time