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Boutros on 14 May 2010
mai said:

Boutros said:

But just look at these two articles. That's what I mean by different market:

http://www.qj.net/qjnet/wii/average-age-of-wii-owners-is-29-says-fils-aime.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/31/technology/31nintendo.html?_r=1&ex=1199854800&en=7d45a4b7f9f7b29b&ei=5058&partner=IWON

 

It says what's the average age of Wii owners and DS owners. Huge difference. Different market.

Those articles are really out of date. "80 percent of DS owners are 8 to 16 years of age" - this's just plain wrong according to Nintendo themselves, only 30-35% of DS users are belong to this age group and this data is US only, Japan DS audience is considerably more diverse (hence penetration rate) and on top of that last survey resulsts were published a year ago, so I won't be surprised if DS US userbase now is closer to japanese. Does it mean that DS now appeals to older audience or it's just penetration rate is going up?

Really, "DS is for kids" - that's just old and out of date =)

Wait I never said DS is for kid, I just said it's the gaming device that appeals the most to childrens.



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valen200 on 14 May 2010

yay, and that is quite the accomplishment. Ps2 set the bar pretty dang high. I mean will still have a case of Ps2 games at work, it has lasted so long.



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hallowedbeeddie on 14 May 2010
Smashchu2 said:
Boutros said:
Smashchu2 said:
Boutros said:
Kyuubi Ricky SSJ2 said:
Boutros said:
*Portable* Console



Because: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_console

Still a console. It's like separating Laptops from Desktop PC's.

I never considered handhelds and consoles the same. It's different market.

It's more like comparing a Mac with a Ipod.

Macs and iPods serve different purposes. Ipods are meant to play music on the go. Computers are meant to do numerous things like typing, surfing the web, watching vidoes and so on. They serve two different jobs and you can not substitute a Mac for an iPod.

Handhelds and consoles are both videogame machines and are designed to do the same thing: play video games. The only difference is that one is portable and the other is not, but they fill the same role. Thus, they are in the same market and consumers will compair the two when they decide to buy videogames.

Well I was mostly talking about the iPod touch where you can do pretty much the same as a Mac (on a much smaller scale of course).

 

I'll never ever consider handhelds and consoles the same. It's a whole different experience at least for me. I don't like handheld much while I really enjoy consoles. That's why I'm saying it's not the same market.

Just becuase you seperate them does not mean consumers do. The only difference between the two is one is handheld and one is not. Since consumers are buying a videogame system, they are comparable. Consumers don't segment markets like that.


well I can actually back that up. here in costa rica both consoles and portables are both very expensive so I had to decide on which console to get first this gen. it was a hard decision but I finally picked the ds and never regretted the choice I made (of course I eventually got the wii). but I viewed them all as consoles same as most people here. there are people who would pick a ds instead of a wii 360 or ps3.



mai on 14 May 2010

Boutros said:

Wait I never said DS is for kid, I just said it's the gaming device that appeals the most to childrens.

You just repharsed old mantra =)

Anyways we're getting off the point of the argument. You're suggesting that DS just by the fact it's portable is appeal to bigger userbase. That was your point, you didn't specify any details about what userbase or how different from PS2 userbase it is. Now you're suggesting it appeals the most to children which I find kinda countreproductive for Nintendo and contradictive to your initial claim, since if we're to follow US census results it's better to appeal to 35-45 y.o. rather than children. Those age groups are majority of US population, not kids. How could DS "appeals the most to children" and have potentially bigger audience than PS2 at the same time?



Boutros on 14 May 2010
mai said:

Boutros said:

Wait I never said DS is for kid, I just said it's the gaming device that appeals the most to childrens.

You just repharsed old mantra =)

Anyways we're getting off the point of the argument. You're suggesting that DS just by the fact it's portable is appeal to bigger userbase. That was your point, you didn't specify any details about what userbase or how different from PS2 userbase it is. Now you're suggesting it appeals the most to children which I find kinda countreproductive for Nintendo and contradictive to your initial claim, since if we're to follow US census results it's better to appeal to 35-45 y.o. rather than children. Those age groups are majority of US population, not kids. How could DS "appeals the most to children" and have potentially bigger audience than PS2 at the same time?

Because kids like video games more than adults and they have more time to play them lol

I never saw an adult with a DS. The older I've seen is like 20 years old.



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Jumpin on 14 May 2010

DS is a handheld console, PS2 is a home console - two sub-markets of the overall videogame console/system market. Also, considering Dragon Quest 9 is on DS instead of PS3, I would say that they are in direct competition.



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mai on 14 May 2010

Boutros said:

Because kids like video games more than adults and they have more time to play them lol

I never saw an adult with a DS. The older I've seen is like 20 years old.

So finally, you're retracting your argument that DS appeals to bigger audience than PS2 just by the fact it's portable? =) Remember we're not discussing what kind of audience given console is appealing to, we're discussing size of it. What you're essentially suggesting is that lack of portability of PS2 prevents it from reaching bigger audience, which I find faulty to say the least keeping PSP in mind  =)

And stop using arguments like "I (never) saw..." etc. Your personal experience is irrelevant due to doubtful representativeness as well as mine, of course.



Christian973 on 14 May 2010
Boutros said:
mai said:

Boutros said:

Wait I never said DS is for kid, I just said it's the gaming device that appeals the most to childrens.

You just repharsed old mantra =)

Anyways we're getting off the point of the argument. You're suggesting that DS just by the fact it's portable is appeal to bigger userbase. That was your point, you didn't specify any details about what userbase or how different from PS2 userbase it is. Now you're suggesting it appeals the most to children which I find kinda countreproductive for Nintendo and contradictive to your initial claim, since if we're to follow US census results it's better to appeal to 35-45 y.o. rather than children. Those age groups are majority of US population, not kids. How could DS "appeals the most to children" and have potentially bigger audience than PS2 at the same time?

Because kids like video games more than adults and they have more time to play them lol

I never saw an adult with a DS. The older I've seen is like 20 years old.

Are you kidding me? How much evidence and proof do you need? After 2 pages you still don't get it?



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Boutros on 14 May 2010
mai said:

Boutros said:

Because kids like video games more than adults and they have more time to play them lol

I never saw an adult with a DS. The older I've seen is like 20 years old.

So finally, you're retracting your argument that DS appeals to bigger audience than PS2 just by the fact it's portable? =)

No I don't retract anything. The portable aspect makes it more accessible than a home console where you need a place to play and a TV. My brother bought a PSP exclusively because he's travelling in bus a lot and he needed something to do while waiting.



Siko1989 on 14 May 2010

i should buy more games for the DS, i have been focusing to much on the home video game consoles...