AW its a Awsome game but 360 fans are killing him, because you cant compare this with Uncharted 2 please, its pretty obious that the comparation comes because there no other game on 360 in the nearly future that can really content with Uncahrted 2 quality.
Sorry guys im not a fanboy, instead im more hyped with AW that with any other game right now, but please stop comparin it with the best game of this gen because that just make it look bad.

If you don't care then let it lie. You tell me my point is irrelevant but ignore the PS3 owners comment? why?

All I am going to say is you clearly cannot comprehend this. It's beyond your spectrum so maybe you should drop it. I don't know how many more different ways I can explain the same point. You entered a discussion beyond you and now you are trying to save face. If you don't care so much don't respond.

I'll try one last time with one of the points though I suspect like all the other times it'll be over your head. You bought up games which no-one had mentioned before. You never explained why until several post later. So i mentioned games with similer dev times. Like I was asking MikeB to do. It turns out because you cannot explain yourself your point was the dev times of those games but of the studio, a studi bigger than remedy with more resources. Why does that point matter? You never explained it but I'm guessing I'm two post away from finding out finally.

Ok I read your last point and way to put words in peoples mouths. As you quoted me tell me where I said "well MikeB is trolling so why can't I". I never I said compare games with dev times like for like. You understand right? Apples and apples not Apples and oranges. You see fault with me asking him to be reasonable but not with his unnecessary comparisons? Blinkered vision maybe?

If you cannot see what my point was (if you absolutely have to then compare games with comparable dev times as I said to him and you many times so given your history of only understanding and explaining things several post later you might finally understand) then you should leave this right now before the headaches begin. Lord knows you've given me one. Maybe my comment about leaving the internet was aimed at the wrong person

I don't think we need longer quote trees. As long as you don't think I'm deleting quotes to suit my argument. I'm not.

Yet your allowed to make a completely subjective and baited phrase like that in this thread and thats fine? 

Just lock this troll infested thread please FFS.

No Slowmo, Keep it open.
I'm having a whale of a time with them

Well I'm sorry but any dithering on indoor shadow penumbras is the deal breaker for me. I'm all about penumbric dithering. Bloody amateurs!

Everyone here took what they wanted from that article. Selnor has the ioi-given right to take four points and accentuate the positive imo. The PS3 crowd here to defend the gigantic gulf of superiority UC2 has over any 360 titles came away fairly happy as well.

To me the writer spent too much time lamenting AW's lost sandbox style and only grudgingly admitted it looked pretty damn good. What some people took as anti-PS bias looked like typical PC elitism to me. He probably thought implying the PS3 was less handicapped was a complement. Apparently our backrounds, experiences and agendas affect our perceptions!

Was there a name on that anywhere? Otherwise the Foundry family have quite a sense of humour. Poor Digital probably got beat up a lot in school.

Holy heck look at this thread go.

I now live in actual fear of the similar thread for when DF analyze Halo : Reach final code.

Wait for the first analysis on the next PS3 title to go sub HD and all the 3d titles that will be downgraded heavily.  It will be a blood bath of petty users on here getting "revenge".  Besides by that time we'll have renamed the Microsoft forums Sony Discussion part 2.

Yet another thread that had potential turned into a pile of shit, good job people, that's what I come to the forums for! I live for this shit!

On a side note, I think a guy was asking about AW not being in the same league as the big boys like UC2 or God of War 3, well, it isn't, as much as I hate pulling the meta card, it's the opinions of the reviewers averaged to get a general idea of how the masses would view the game, and currently, AW has a very good score of 84, but it's not the awesome scores of 96 of UC2 or the 93 of God of War 3. I fail to see why it matters however provided that it's supposed to be entertainment and if the people playing it are entertained, then the people in Remedy did their jobs right.

Oh and Selnor, we've talked about this, 720p+4xMSAA=not possible with current gen consoles, what you should pay attention to is the tessellation unit in the ATI hardware, not that eDRAM part. 30% more optimization in the current AW Engine would be used elsewhere, more stable frame rate, more visual effects or detail in objectss, but don't expect the level of jump from UC to UC2 from it. I bring up the tessellation unit for a simple reason, it would not be used to get more detailed graphics like the DX11 PC games because the 360's power is limited, but what it can do is save a lot of memory and create room for other things, if the devs can make good use of it anyways.

You know, if John Carmack already acknowledges that the PS3 is more powerful than the 360 overall, then all else is moot to me atm. It's already a known fact that id said that the PS3 Rage would look better too, and I can't wait to see that thing on my PC. I love how he doesn't sugar coat shit and just says it, and I respect them for not making "equal" versions like other lazy ass devs and actually tries to push all hardwares. It's also going to be interesting when Crysis 2 comes out, I really want to see how the engine performs on the consoles personally.

Those Carmack comments can be twisted either way, personally I think using dev comments as some form of "proof" is ridiculous debating practice.  If you want to start silly games with dev quotes then call Raz in her and he'll give you 10 pages of debate proving the opposite of what you believe is true.  There is enough evidence to show that at the moment the PS3 appears to be marginally more powerful, this may of course change in the future though.