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That's a pretty narrow article. Why were the only two platforms addressed in regards to piracy the iPhone/iTouch and PC? Then the blame goes into console oriented games being the cause of PC game failure, but that never addresses the piracy issue on consoles, since console oriented games aren't an issue on those platforms, yet piracy still is. Very sloppy article overall, that tried to address too many things at once and left out a large part of the picture. Since it was merely covert advertising for a PC game bundle though, it's understandable that the meat of the article wasn't nearly as well put together as the finely tuned final paragraph plugging the product.



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Onyxmeth said:

That's a pretty narrow article. Why were the only two platforms addressed in regards to piracy the iPhone/iTouch and PC? Then the blame goes into console oriented games being the cause of PC game failure, but that never addresses the piracy issue on consoles, since console oriented games aren't an issue on those platforms, yet piracy still is. Very sloppy article overall, that tried to address too many things at once and left out a large part of the picture. Since it was merely covert advertising for a PC game bundle though, it's understandable that the meat of the article wasn't nearly as well put together as the finely tuned final paragraph plugging the product.

Probably because it's piracy on the PC that gets the most flack and most igonorant people bitching about it.



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vlad321 said:
Onyxmeth said:

That's a pretty narrow article. Why were the only two platforms addressed in regards to piracy the iPhone/iTouch and PC? Then the blame goes into console oriented games being the cause of PC game failure, but that never addresses the piracy issue on consoles, since console oriented games aren't an issue on those platforms, yet piracy still is. Very sloppy article overall, that tried to address too many things at once and left out a large part of the picture. Since it was merely covert advertising for a PC game bundle though, it's understandable that the meat of the article wasn't nearly as well put together as the finely tuned final paragraph plugging the product.

Probably because it's piracy on the PC that gets the most flack and most igonorant people bitching about it.

Then explain to me how the iPhone portion fits into the article since it has the least people bitching about it.



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Onyxmeth said:
vlad321 said:
Onyxmeth said:

That's a pretty narrow article. Why were the only two platforms addressed in regards to piracy the iPhone/iTouch and PC? Then the blame goes into console oriented games being the cause of PC game failure, but that never addresses the piracy issue on consoles, since console oriented games aren't an issue on those platforms, yet piracy still is. Very sloppy article overall, that tried to address too many things at once and left out a large part of the picture. Since it was merely covert advertising for a PC game bundle though, it's understandable that the meat of the article wasn't nearly as well put together as the finely tuned final paragraph plugging the product.

Probably because it's piracy on the PC that gets the most flack and most igonorant people bitching about it.

Then explain to me how the iPhone portion fits into the article since it has the least people bitching about it.

Because the statistic of the jailbroken or not thing is readily available I'm guessing.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

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So here's my beef with this reasoning.

 

It's retarded.

 

Because if we go on the logic of this article, then it's seemingly okay for me to go into a store and take 500.00 worth of clothing on the basis of "well I'd never buy this even if I was going shopping for clothes". You can't take something, anything, because you feel like its below your money. With the production values of games going higher and higher, every game pirated is in some way a loss to the company. Why? Because in some way you WANTED the game enough to click the link for it to download to your hard drive. The game still had a currency to you; hard drive space. There's a concept in marketing that explains every object in this world has a value to someone. The value doesn't necessarily have to be money. Maybe its time, or energy, or in this case, space on a hard drive that isn't infinite.

Therein lies the problem. While you've estimated that Game A was worth the 9 gigs on your hard drive, the creator of the game has estimated that the game is worth 29.99. But we live in a world where the laws favor his currency, and not yours.

So while this article was kind of cute and obviously meant to tailor to a specific audience, it has a lot of holes in its logic.



vlad321 said:
Onyxmeth said:
vlad321 said:
Onyxmeth said:

That's a pretty narrow article. Why were the only two platforms addressed in regards to piracy the iPhone/iTouch and PC? Then the blame goes into console oriented games being the cause of PC game failure, but that never addresses the piracy issue on consoles, since console oriented games aren't an issue on those platforms, yet piracy still is. Very sloppy article overall, that tried to address too many things at once and left out a large part of the picture. Since it was merely covert advertising for a PC game bundle though, it's understandable that the meat of the article wasn't nearly as well put together as the finely tuned final paragraph plugging the product.

Probably because it's piracy on the PC that gets the most flack and most igonorant people bitching about it.

Then explain to me how the iPhone portion fits into the article since it has the least people bitching about it.

Because the statistic of the jailbroken or not thing is readily available I'm guessing.

You didn't answer my question. I asked how it fits into the article. You answered that it's readily available content. That's not a reason any more than a hundred other readily available stats that need to be searched on the internet would fit into this article. The author plainly mentioned he had to research the statistic. It wasn't placed on his desk. How exactly does it fit into the article good sir?



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Onyxmeth said:
vlad321 said:

Because the statistic of the jailbroken or not thing is readily available I'm guessing.

You didn't answer my question. I asked how it fits into the article. You answered that it's readily available content. That's not a reason any more than a hundred other readily available stats that need to be searched on the internet would fit into this article. The author plainly mentioned he had to research the statistic. It wasn't placed on his desk. How exactly does it fit into the article good sir?

Oh sorry i thought you were asking why they put in the iPhone and not another console. The statistics just shows that even if youa ssume 90% of games are pirated, it's done so by a very small amount of customers, 10% in fact. As such the whole 90% is heavily skewed.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

dorbin2009 said:

So here's my beef with this reasoning.

 

It's retarded.

 

Because if we go on the logic of this article, then it's seemingly okay for me to go into a store and take 500.00 worth of clothing on the basis of "well I'd never buy this even if I was going shopping for clothes". You can't take something, anything, because you feel like its below your money. With the production values of games going higher and higher, every game pirated is in some way a loss to the company. Why? Because in some way you WANTED the game enough to click the link for it to download to your hard drive. The game still had a currency to you; hard drive space. There's a concept in marketing that explains every object in this world has a value to someone. The value doesn't necessarily have to be money. Maybe its time, or energy, or in this case, space on a hard drive that isn't infinite.

Therein lies the problem. While you've estimated that Game A was worth the 9 gigs on your hard drive, the creator of the game has estimated that the game is worth 29.99. But we live in a world where the laws favor his currency, and not yours.

So while this article was kind of cute and obviously meant to tailor to a specific audience, it has a lot of holes in its logic.

You are logic is even more retarded the moment you equated digital goods to physical goods.



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HD vs Wii, PC vs HD: http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=93374

Why Regenerating Health is a crap game mechanic: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=3986420

gamrReview's broken review scores: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4170835

 

vlad321 said:
Onyxmeth said:
vlad321 said:
 

Because the statistic of the jailbroken or not thing is readily available I'm guessing.

You didn't answer my question. I asked how it fits into the article. You answered that it's readily available content. That's not a reason any more than a hundred other readily available stats that need to be searched on the internet would fit into this article. The author plainly mentioned he had to research the statistic. It wasn't placed on his desk. How exactly does it fit into the article good sir?

Oh sorry i thought you were asking why they put in the iPhone and not another console. The statistics just shows that even if youa ssume 90% of games are pirated, it's done so by a very small amount of customers, 10% in fact. As such the whole 90% is heavily skewed.

It's poorly founded, because it's comparing the ways in which to measure both iPhone and PC pirate percentages, and yet only gives a reason as to why PC games are pirated. It's a wholly unique reason and doesn't address why the iPhone games are pirated, and it never addresses then why console games get pirated or how it correlates to the percentage of pirates over different platforms. Overall very poorly done, and an obvious plug for their product. I understand you have an agenda to fulfill here, but step back and look at this bunk. It's just sloppy, half done field work and the two segments of the article don't fit well together at all by themselves.



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