Well Xbox is successful already because
1. There Hardware sales are outpacing the original xbox for the same time frame
2. There Software sales are incredible
3. They posted a profit before their second year and the original xbox didnt get a profitable quarter unitil their 4th year
Rath said:
Unless some sort of meteorite hits the planet earth or something we can safely assume X360 will sell over 24M. |
well, to be fair, it took 2 years for the 360 to reach 14 million. for all you know sales could slow down in the next two years. it may just sell over 25 million in the next few years. 2008 is a new year and the tide could turn, especially now that it has a much greater lineup to compete against. but i do think 360 is much more likely to sell over 30 million, i also think the chance of it not selling that much over 24 million is a high enough possibilty not to rule out. but, once agin, its just my opinion.
DOATS1 said:
while i agree xbox has become more popular, i dont think its right to say they have "expanded" their userbase. so far 360 has sold what, 14.5 million? the original xbox sold about 24 million. until the 360 surpasses 24 million by a significant margin, its hard to say if the 360 has captured alot more gamers. thats the way i see it anyway. |
At this point in the original XBox's life, it had only sold 11 million. So I think it is fair to say the 360 has expanded its marketshare. Plus the original XBox was cheaper from the getgo than the 360 so it had an advantage. If the 360 even maintains their current sales, let alone increases, we are looking at 34-46 million based on a 5-7 year life.
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Beating the PS3 is very important for the 360 this generation. Even if the 360 sells more than the original XBox did, it could still come in third this generation. Since they were second in the last generation, third would not be much of a success.
I still can't see the PS3 coming last as long as Final Fantasy XIII and Versus XIII remain PS3 exclusives, it's just impossible.
| WiiStation360 said: Beating the PS3 is very important for the 360 this generation. Even if the 360 sells more than the original XBox did, it could still come in third this generation. Since they were second in the last generation, third would not be much of a success. |
All microsoft has to do to be a success this generation is not lose money on gaming division overall and continue to prevent Playstation from becoming a monopoly in gaming. The XBox was created because microsoft was afraid of a sony living room console monopoly that would hurt windows sales.
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| Rugger08 said: PS3 might be beating XBox 360 in world wide sales right now, but sony is also still hemorrhaging money all over the place with PS3 while microsoft is now actually in danger of profiting off of XBox this quarter. Who do you think is going to be able to make a price cut in early to mid 08? This price cut is the one that matters, the one that makes the HD consoles affordable to the general public. If the premium goes down to $300 or lower with PS3 40gig still at $400, game over. And in case anyone is wondering where my biases are, I am all nintendo. Microsoft and Sony can both suck it. |
Compared to what MS has lost on the Xbox over the last 7 years, Sony isn't hemmoraging anything. MS isn't in that much better shape to offer a price cut if they ever want earn back the $5 billion plus they've already lost. Sony has barely suffered a paper cut. On top of that, Sony as a company is still making a profit, so I don't think they're too worried at this early stage in the game. No doubt this Christmas is important for all the companies, but the fact of the matter is that we still have probably 4-5 years left in this generation.
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jman8 said:
Compared to what MS has lost on the Xbox over the last 7 years, Sony isn't hemmoraging anything. MS isn't in that much better shape to offer a price cut if they ever want earn back the $5 billion plus they've already lost. Sony has barely suffered a paper cut. On top of that, Sony as a company is still making a profit, so I don't think they're too worried at this early stage in the game. No doubt this Christmas is important for all the companies, but the fact of the matter is that we still have probably 4-5 years left in this generation. |
Do you understand the Microsoft is considerably bigger then sony and can easily take these hits with their reserve cash. When MS lost the most money i heard they maybe lost 1/6 of their profit (big) but sony is lost almost HALF of their profit from the ps3.
If HD DVD gains support this christmas i would be pretty danm worried if i was sony.
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DOATS1 said:
ioi stated otherwise. he said that ps3 and ds saw huge increases on black friday, 360 and wii not as large.
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He means percentage increases.
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jman8 said:
Compared to what MS has lost on the Xbox over the last 7 years, Sony isn't hemmoraging anything. MS isn't in that much better shape to offer a price cut if they ever want earn back the $5 billion plus they've already lost. Sony has barely suffered a paper cut. On top of that, Sony as a company is still making a profit, so I don't think they're too worried at this early stage in the game. No doubt this Christmas is important for all the companies, but the fact of the matter is that we still have probably 4-5 years left in this generation. |
microsoft is a money making machine so $5 billion is nothing to them and they new the wouldnt make a profit on the original xbox, microsoft just wanted to stop sony taking over the living room at any cost
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