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The UK 2010 Election Thread- Who will/would get your vote?

Conservative - David Cameron 19 32.20%
 
Labour - Gordon Brown 11 18.64%
 
Liberal Democrats - Nick Clegg 22 37.29%
 
Other Party (Green/UKIP/Etc) 5 8.47%
 
Undecided 2 3.39%
 
Total:59
ManusJustus on 22 April 2010

You Euros make me jealous. You have several parties to choose from from all over the political spectrum.



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CrazyHorse on 22 April 2010

Will have to be the Lib Dems for me. Their domestic and foreign policies are closest to my views although there are a number of issues on which I either disagree with them or have reservations about. Although I agree with many of the Tory policies in principle I feel too many of them are either unworkable, ineffective or completely counter productive. They still seem so out of touch with domestic society and have no clue about how to tackle the problems the UK faces.



CrazyHorse on 22 April 2010
FootballFan said:
I have to admit I find the massive jump (leap) up the opinion polls as being incredible.

The biggest unspoken issues in this election campaign are, in no particular order:
a) the People want a referendum on the EU, with the vast majority seemingly willing the UK out of it altogether;
b) the People demand that whoever gets in number 10 next gets immigration under control.

Yet after 90 minutes of a TV debate, the People are quite willing to vote for the party whose flagship policies include scrapping the Pound, surrendering yet more power to Brussels and an amnesty (yet again) for all illegal immigrants living in the UK.

Am I missing something?

How can someone who has the exact opposite views to that of the majority of the people get so much support? It can't just be the fact that he was looking down the camera and Brown was saying "I agree with Nick" every few mins....

Although the Lib Dems are clearly the most pro-European party they are not going to hand over all domestic power to the EU nor scrap the pound quite as simply as many recent media reports suggest. They are pro-Euro but say conditions are not currently right and even when they are they promise a referendum on the issue. They also promise a referendum on the UK even being in Europe should the EU put forward any more more legislation transferring soverign powers from Westminster to Brussels.

Immigration is slightly different and a bit more subjective. For me the Lib Dems have the best policy on immigration as the Tory proposal of an immigration 'cap' could be a potential distaster. What if the cap is reached half way through a year and then a particular sector requires a form of skilled work which is lacking in the UK? Also, if the cap includes international students then a reduction in those numbers would create a financial crisis for UK universities (as well as damage their academic output).



NKAJ on 22 April 2010

The BNP tells the cookie to go back to Cookieland.
you won me over to this thread with that line.
On topic...If i could vote id probably vote conservative,but i think i should research more before i make any decisions



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SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
FootballFan said:
I have to admit I find the massive jump (leap) up the opinion polls as being incredible.

The biggest unspoken issues in this election campaign are, in no particular order:
a) the People want a referendum on the EU, with the vast majority seemingly willing the UK out of it altogether;
b) the People demand that whoever gets in number 10 next gets immigration under control.

Yet after 90 minutes of a TV debate, the People are quite willing to vote for the party whose flagship policies include scrapping the Pound, surrendering yet more power to Brussels and an amnesty (yet again) for all illegal immigrants living in the UK.

Am I missing something?

How can someone who has the exact opposite views to that of the majority of the people get so much support? It can't just be the fact that he was looking down the camera and Brown was saying "I agree with Nick" every few mins....

Exactly what I have been saying!

The people of this country never cease to disappoint. 

Basing their opinion on... "oooo he seems like a nice sincere fella"..  pathetic.  Yet if you asked most of those people, do you favour full EU integration, do you favour unilateral disarming, do you favour an open door policy on immigration with zero caps.  It would be a no, no and no.

And why do people think he is some normal bloke?  He is as much a silver spoon as Cameron and Blair are (not sure about Brown), and his ancestory and family arguably the most "establishment" of all three candidates.

 

 

 

1) I'd say most people are apathetic toward the EU, its just the ones hostile to it are most vocal.

2) the Lib Dems are not in favour of unilateral disarmerment, they want a cheaper replacemennt than Trident

3) they dont want an open door policy on immigration. they want a regional system like they have in Australlia



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SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
FootballFan said:
I have to admit I find the massive jump (leap) up the opinion polls as being incredible.

The biggest unspoken issues in this election campaign are, in no particular order:
a) the People want a referendum on the EU, with the vast majority seemingly willing the UK out of it altogether;
b) the People demand that whoever gets in number 10 next gets immigration under control.

Yet after 90 minutes of a TV debate, the People are quite willing to vote for the party whose flagship policies include scrapping the Pound, surrendering yet more power to Brussels and an amnesty (yet again) for all illegal immigrants living in the UK.

Am I missing something?

How can someone who has the exact opposite views to that of the majority of the people get so much support? It can't just be the fact that he was looking down the camera and Brown was saying "I agree with Nick" every few mins....

Exactly what I have been saying!

The people of this country never cease to disappoint. 

Basing their opinion on... "oooo he seems like a nice sincere fella"..  pathetic.  Yet if you asked most of those people, do you favour full EU integration, do you favour unilateral disarming, do you favour an open door policy on immigration with zero caps.  It would be a no, no and no.

And why do people think he is some normal bloke?  He is as much a silver spoon as Cameron and Blair are (not sure about Brown), and his ancestory and family arguably the most "establishment" of all three candidates.

 

 

 

1) I'd say most people are apathetic toward the EU, its just the ones hostile to it are most vocal.

2) the Lib Dems are not in favour of unilateral disarmerment, they want a cheaper replacemennt than Trident

3) they dont want an open door policy on immigration. they want a regional system like they have in Australlia

1. I disagree... I couldnt disagree more.

2. Then why did Nick Clegg say that exact thing in the first debate

3. We dont live in a wide and vast country, wouldnt work here.  Australia is huge and very very sparsely populated... we are for all intents and purposes... full.  Mobility is incredibly easy, From Manchester I can be in any of the major English cities within 2 hours.  We simply dont have the infrastructure to deal with our current population and seeing as there HAS to be cuts in public spending over the coming year its a non starter for me.  Lastly, Would the UK courts allow or would a Lib dem government have the stomach to actually deport someone because they drifted to another region... I think not.

1. 34% turnout in the last EU elections. of which the anti-EU parties only got about 50% of that vote, and thats counting the Conservatives as anti-EU, which isnt really fair, they arent opposed to our membership.

2. er, just because someone doesnt mention something doesnt mean its not a policy, do your research...

3. theyre policy doesnt forbid people from visiting other regions, just from working in them. (I think, if not, than you have a point, im not neccessarily agreeing with there policies, I just think its ignorant of you to misrepresent them)

 



SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
FootballFan said:
I have to admit I find the massive jump (leap) up the opinion polls as being incredible.

The biggest unspoken issues in this election campaign are, in no particular order:
a) the People want a referendum on the EU, with the vast majority seemingly willing the UK out of it altogether;
b) the People demand that whoever gets in number 10 next gets immigration under control.

Yet after 90 minutes of a TV debate, the People are quite willing to vote for the party whose flagship policies include scrapping the Pound, surrendering yet more power to Brussels and an amnesty (yet again) for all illegal immigrants living in the UK.

Am I missing something?

How can someone who has the exact opposite views to that of the majority of the people get so much support? It can't just be the fact that he was looking down the camera and Brown was saying "I agree with Nick" every few mins....

Exactly what I have been saying!

The people of this country never cease to disappoint. 

Basing their opinion on... "oooo he seems like a nice sincere fella"..  pathetic.  Yet if you asked most of those people, do you favour full EU integration, do you favour unilateral disarming, do you favour an open door policy on immigration with zero caps.  It would be a no, no and no.

And why do people think he is some normal bloke?  He is as much a silver spoon as Cameron and Blair are (not sure about Brown), and his ancestory and family arguably the most "establishment" of all three candidates.

 

 

 

1) I'd say most people are apathetic toward the EU, its just the ones hostile to it are most vocal.

2) the Lib Dems are not in favour of unilateral disarmerment, they want a cheaper replacemennt than Trident

3) they dont want an open door policy on immigration. they want a regional system like they have in Australlia

1. I disagree... I couldnt disagree more.

2. Then why did Nick Clegg say that exact thing in the first debate

3. We dont live in a wide and vast country, wouldnt work here.  Australia is huge and very very sparsely populated... we are for all intents and purposes... full.  Mobility is incredibly easy, From Manchester I can be in any of the major English cities within 2 hours.  We simply dont have the infrastructure to deal with our current population and seeing as there HAS to be cuts in public spending over the coming year its a non starter for me.  Lastly, Would the UK courts allow or would a Lib dem government have the stomach to actually deport someone because they drifted to another region... I think not.

1. 34% turnout in the last EU elections. of which the anti-EU parties only got about 50% of that vote, and thats counting the Conservatives as anti-EU, which isnt really fair, they arent opposed to our membership.

2. er, just because someone doesnt mention something doesnt mean its not a policy, do your research...

3. theyre policy doesnt forbid people from visiting other regions, just from working in them. (I think, if not, than you have a point, im not neccessarily agreeing with there policies, I just think its ignorant of you to misrepresent them)

 

1.  Dont see you point.  lack of turnout for an EU election could just aswell prove the point that people see no point in the EU or mis-trust it.  Have a referendum on the pound tomorrow and see what the turnout for that is.

2.  You missed what I said... in the last TV debate.. Nick Clegg said he wanted and favoured unilateral disarming.

3.  I know it doesnt forbid them from travelling, but my point still stands... nothing against middlesbro, but if you are sent there then you may prefer to be in Manchester, Birmingham or London and off you will go seeking it... vanishing into the black economy. 

dont call me ignorant, I am not misrepresenting them... you are misrpresenting them... or nick clegg is...

1. it could mean either...thats why we should have a referrendum on the EU...

2. I dont recall him saying that, I recall him saying that we didnt need trident though...

3. I think it could work.

you said that they were in favour of dissarmerment, not true, you said they were in favour of open borders, again, not true.

I didnt misrepresent anything, I stated what I know about there policies...



Kantor on 22 April 2010
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
Kantor said:
FootballFan said:

FIRSTLY I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I DONT AGREE WITH ANY OF THE VIEWS OF THIS PARTY. I JUST THINK IT IS "RIGHT" TO INCLUDE THEM AS THEY ARE A POLITICAL PARTY WITHIN THE UK.

 

No, thanks. I'd rather not be conversing with somebody who, knowing the facts about them, would still support that racist joke of a party. Not you, of course.


Frankly speeking this party should never when in an election. So this is what the world is turnning into. Hey i didn't know the teaparty went to Great Britain.!

I'm guessing you mean "win" rather than "when".

They're not going to win any elections any time soon. They won't get a single seat in parliament, and you can quote me on that.



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Carl on 22 April 2010

@Kantor

What will you do if they do get a seat... or 2?

OT:
Not fully decided yet. I'm siding more with Conservatives though than anyone else atm. Tonight will be interesting...



                            

rastari on 22 April 2010
Kantor said:

 I think the country needs a good dose of capitalism

No thank you, It was a good dose of captilism that has lead to the global recession, if they're's anything we do not need it's capitilism.