kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
FootballFan said:
I have to admit I find the massive jump (leap) up the opinion polls as being incredible.
The biggest unspoken issues in this election campaign are, in no particular order:
a) the People want a referendum on the EU, with the vast majority seemingly willing the UK out of it altogether;
b) the People demand that whoever gets in number 10 next gets immigration under control.
Yet after 90 minutes of a TV debate, the People are quite willing to vote for the party whose flagship policies include scrapping the Pound, surrendering yet more power to Brussels and an amnesty (yet again) for all illegal immigrants living in the UK.
Am I missing something?
How can someone who has the exact opposite views to that of the majority of the people get so much support? It can't just be the fact that he was looking down the camera and Brown was saying "I agree with Nick" every few mins....
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Exactly what I have been saying!
The people of this country never cease to disappoint.
Basing their opinion on... "oooo he seems like a nice sincere fella".. pathetic. Yet if you asked most of those people, do you favour full EU integration, do you favour unilateral disarming, do you favour an open door policy on immigration with zero caps. It would be a no, no and no.
And why do people think he is some normal bloke? He is as much a silver spoon as Cameron and Blair are (not sure about Brown), and his ancestory and family arguably the most "establishment" of all three candidates.
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1) I'd say most people are apathetic toward the EU, its just the ones hostile to it are most vocal.
2) the Lib Dems are not in favour of unilateral disarmerment, they want a cheaper replacemennt than Trident
3) they dont want an open door policy on immigration. they want a regional system like they have in Australlia
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1. I disagree... I couldnt disagree more.
2. Then why did Nick Clegg say that exact thing in the first debate
3. We dont live in a wide and vast country, wouldnt work here. Australia is huge and very very sparsely populated... we are for all intents and purposes... full. Mobility is incredibly easy, From Manchester I can be in any of the major English cities within 2 hours. We simply dont have the infrastructure to deal with our current population and seeing as there HAS to be cuts in public spending over the coming year its a non starter for me. Lastly, Would the UK courts allow or would a Lib dem government have the stomach to actually deport someone because they drifted to another region... I think not.
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1. 34% turnout in the last EU elections. of which the anti-EU parties only got about 50% of that vote, and thats counting the Conservatives as anti-EU, which isnt really fair, they arent opposed to our membership.
2. er, just because someone doesnt mention something doesnt mean its not a policy, do your research...
3. theyre policy doesnt forbid people from visiting other regions, just from working in them. (I think, if not, than you have a point, im not neccessarily agreeing with there policies, I just think its ignorant of you to misrepresent them)
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1. Dont see you point. lack of turnout for an EU election could just aswell prove the point that people see no point in the EU or mis-trust it. Have a referendum on the pound tomorrow and see what the turnout for that is.
2. You missed what I said... in the last TV debate.. Nick Clegg said he wanted and favoured unilateral disarming.
3. I know it doesnt forbid them from travelling, but my point still stands... nothing against middlesbro, but if you are sent there then you may prefer to be in Manchester, Birmingham or London and off you will go seeking it... vanishing into the black economy.
dont call me ignorant, I am not misrepresenting them... you are misrpresenting them... or nick clegg is...
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1. it could mean either...thats why we should have a referrendum on the EU...
2. I dont recall him saying that, I recall him saying that we didnt need trident though...
3. I think it could work.
you said that they were in favour of dissarmerment, not true, you said they were in favour of open borders, again, not true.
I didnt misrepresent anything, I stated what I know about there policies...
