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Random Canadian on 17 April 2010
bowspearer said:
Random Canadian said:
Damnyouall said:

If Sony hadn't unlawfully forced the consumers to either lose Other OS or the ability to play future games, BD movies and use PSN, there wouldn't be a CFW.

Sometimes things are just as simple as they look.

If Sony hadn't unlawfully - Proof it has been ruled unlawful ANYWHERE as of now.. no I didnt think so

 

Actually Sony in the case of Australia has broken several sections of the TPA- section 52, 53c, 68, 70 and 74 by this course of action. This is why PS3 owners here have been legally advised by the ACCC and other legal advisory services to launch criminal proceedings against Sony. It's also why the ACCC has indicated in a form letter to people complaining to them (the type of email which only gets sent out when there are several people complaining) that they are seriously investigating the matter- if you think that's something which happens in the course of a few days then you clearly lack even the most basic understanding of how a case of this scale works, including legal preparations. Nice try, but  but you fail- go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

 

forced the consumers to either lose Other OS or the ability to play future games - Speculation at best, Prove to me that any games or movies require Fw greater then 3.15, Thats what I thought


Yes because this situation doesn't also affect users 6-12 months from now when games will start coming out requiring that version of firmware or higher in any way whatsoever. Seriously do you even engage your brain at all before letting your fingers go nuts on the keyboard?

 

and use PSN, there wouldn't be a CFW.  PSN access is a PRIVILEGE not a RIGHT.

 

Actually it's an advertised feature, seriously, pull your head out of Sony's backside before you post next time.

 

I Challenge you to post a pic of your PS3 running linux with your VGC screen name visible along with something onscreen that proves its running on your PS3 or stop your personal crusade.

 

Irony- someone destroying their own credibility completely with every keystroke demanding others prove their credibility. I love it.

 

 

The only thing you posted thats got any point is there may be some legal action taken in australia.

Ohes Noes my internetz cred /gasp

BTW reported for calling me "special" because I have a 60 gig and I DO USE LINUX however I have 3 computers are well and they do a much better job at being computers then PS3 does so when it comes to removing other OS to stop piracy my response is " I give a fuck?"



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bowspearer on 17 April 2010
jneul said:
Random Canadian said:
jneul said:
Thread reported I hope mods ban you damyouall, because you have no idea what CFW could do to people's PS3's when it does come out.

How juvenile

Reported you for making highly ignorant and misleading statements about CFW, I hope mods ban you as well.

If you knew ANYTHING about what CFW was about then you would know there is virtually no maleware for CFW consoles, PSP for example has had 1 "virus" written for it that I can recall and it was causing bricks, however in most cases CFW is tested as much or more then OFW and is, for the most part just as stable and reliable.

 

obviously the poster of this thread does not know the rules, I am pretty sure it is against rules to post anything related to hacks, in this case posting any info in here about CFW is a bad idea.

also what i said was not wrong,  I am not being juvenile, beleive it or not some of us are against CFW coming to PS3, please try harder next time to insult me.

 

Just one major problem with your logic here. Hacks are designed to access functions within a device which were either not available at the time of sale or not marketted to work with a certain device. As the "otherOS" function was both present when units were sold and marketted as a feature of the PS3, if the CFW is designed to metrely restore the "otherOS" then it is merely restoring a feature which owners of the console were entitled to to begin with (in the case of older model PS3 owners). As such CFW which was specifically designed to work around FW3.21 cannot be classed as a hack. If anything, as Sony have acted illegally in many countries under consumer protection laws, legally this CFW would have to be classed as indirect restitution.

Furthermore if you want to blame anyone for CFW coming to the PS3, blame Sony for thinking that they were big and bad enough that the consumer protection laws of countries they export to, simply don't apply to them.



Damnyouall on 17 April 2010
bowspearer said:
Random Canadian said:
Damnyouall said:

If Sony hadn't unlawfully forced the consumers to either lose Other OS or the ability to play future games, BD movies and use PSN, there wouldn't be a CFW.

Sometimes things are just as simple as they look.

If Sony hadn't unlawfully - Proof it has been ruled unlawful ANYWHERE as of now.. no I didnt think so

 

Actually Sony in the case of Australia has broken several sections of the TPA- section 52, 53c, 68, 70 and 74 by this course of action. This is why PS3 owners here have been legally advised by the ACCC and other legal advisory services to launch criminal proceedings against Sony. It's also why the ACCC has indicated in a form letter to people complaining to them (the type of email which only gets sent out when there are several people complaining) that they are seriously investigating the matter- if you think that's something which happens in the course of a few days then you clearly lack even the most basic understanding of how a case of this scale works, including legal preparations. Nice try, but  but you fail- go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

 

forced the consumers to either lose Other OS or the ability to play future games - Speculation at best, Prove to me that any games or movies require Fw greater then 3.15, Thats what I thought


Yes because this situation doesn't also affect users 6-12 months from now when games will start coming out requiring that version of firmware or higher in any way whatsoever. Seriously do you even engage your brain at all before letting your fingers go nuts on the keyboard?

 

and use PSN, there wouldn't be a CFW.  PSN access is a PRIVILEGE not a RIGHT.

 

Actually it's an advertised feature, seriously, pull your head out of Sony's backside before you post next time.

 

I Challenge you to post a pic of your PS3 running linux with your VGC screen name visible along with something onscreen that proves its running on your PS3 or stop your personal crusade.

 

Irony- someone destroying their own credibility completely with every keystroke demanding others prove their credibility. I love it.

 

 

Indeed. I don't need to prove anything here; furthermore this is totally unrelated to the topic at hand. Anyway, thanks for replying to this in my place; I would have simply ignored it.



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bowspearer on 17 April 2010
Random Canadian said:
bowspearer said:
Random Canadian said:
Damnyouall said:

If Sony hadn't unlawfully forced the consumers to either lose Other OS or the ability to play future games, BD movies and use PSN, there wouldn't be a CFW.

Sometimes things are just as simple as they look.

If Sony hadn't unlawfully - Proof it has been ruled unlawful ANYWHERE as of now.. no I didnt think so

 

Actually Sony in the case of Australia has broken several sections of the TPA- section 52, 53c, 68, 70 and 74 by this course of action. This is why PS3 owners here have been legally advised by the ACCC and other legal advisory services to launch criminal proceedings against Sony. It's also why the ACCC has indicated in a form letter to people complaining to them (the type of email which only gets sent out when there are several people complaining) that they are seriously investigating the matter- if you think that's something which happens in the course of a few days then you clearly lack even the most basic understanding of how a case of this scale works, including legal preparations. Nice try, but  but you fail- go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

 

forced the consumers to either lose Other OS or the ability to play future games - Speculation at best, Prove to me that any games or movies require Fw greater then 3.15, Thats what I thought


Yes because this situation doesn't also affect users 6-12 months from now when games will start coming out requiring that version of firmware or higher in any way whatsoever. Seriously do you even engage your brain at all before letting your fingers go nuts on the keyboard?

 

and use PSN, there wouldn't be a CFW.  PSN access is a PRIVILEGE not a RIGHT.

 

Actually it's an advertised feature, seriously, pull your head out of Sony's backside before you post next time.

 

I Challenge you to post a pic of your PS3 running linux with your VGC screen name visible along with something onscreen that proves its running on your PS3 or stop your personal crusade.

 

Irony- someone destroying their own credibility completely with every keystroke demanding others prove their credibility. I love it.

 

 

The only thing you posted thats got any point is there may be some legal action taken in australia.

You mean besides the fact that consumer protection laws for the EU are similar enough to those in Australia that someone in the EU has already successfully acquired a partial refund from Amazon?

 

BTW reported for calling me "special" because I have a 60 gig and I DO USE LINUX

 

No actually I accused you of posting without engaging your brain at all. The fact that you think that it is impossible that future games and BRD will require additional firmware especially when 3D games and movies are coming out and require 2 out of phase video streams to be transmitted (meaning that the video functions of the PS3 will need updating) when in fact it will be an inevitability proves my point. Otherwise why would you ask someone to prove what cold be classed as the bleeding obvious.

 

EDIT: However if you're talking about what I said to PS3 fan (and if you are then I've seriously overestimated your intelligence level, and believe me, my opinion of you already wasn't that flattering in the intelligence stakes), then do yourself a favour and familiarise yourself with the English language, including sayings before posting on an English language message boards, or else you'll just make yourself look like a complete idiot.

 

however I have 3 computers are well and they do a much better job at being computers then PS3 does so when it comes to removing other OS to stop piracy my response is " I give a fuck?"

 

So then why post in this thread? Seriously, if you have no interest in the current situation why post here, unless your sole purpose is trolling users who have been affected by this? Next time you hit the report button, hyou might want to remember an old saying "people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".


Wlakiz on 17 April 2010

 

Yes because this situation doesn't also affect users 6-12 months from now when games will start coming out requiring that version of firmware or higher in any way whatsoever. Seriously do you even engage your brain at all before letting your fingers go nuts on the keyboard?


Game developers and movie producers don't have to incoporate new firmware requirements for thier movies and games; yet they would because it protects them piracy.
The fact is, sony is not removing the otherOS, instead they are removing their support for PS3 that has the OtherOS. The bottom line is basically, you are choosing to get your future support from third party group via OtherOS, or you can stick with Sony (but lose otherOS) and get support from them.

 

Actually it's an advertised feature, seriously, pull your head out of Sony's backside before you post next time.

Which is why Microsoft can't pull the plug on the Xbox online service... oh wait..

 



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dsister44 on 17 April 2010
Wlakiz said:

 

Yes because this situation doesn't also affect users 6-12 months from now when games will start coming out requiring that version of firmware or higher in any way whatsoever. Seriously do you even engage your brain at all before letting your fingers go nuts on the keyboard?


Game developers and movie producers don't have to incoporate new firmware requirements for thier movies and games; yet they would because it protects them piracy.
The fact is, sony is not removing the otherOS, instead they are removing their support for PS3 that has the OtherOS. The bottom line is basically, you are choosing to get your future support from third party group via OtherOS, or you can stick with Sony (but lose otherOS) and get support from them.


Or I can get custom firmware and get the best of both worlds. So no downside?

gurglesletch on 17 April 2010

Sony could just ban the consoles like MS has done so you might as well just update to 3.21




Get your Portable ID!

Wlakiz on 17 April 2010
dsister44 said:
Wlakiz said:

 

Yes because this situation doesn't also affect users 6-12 months from now when games will start coming out requiring that version of firmware or higher in any way whatsoever. Seriously do you even engage your brain at all before letting your fingers go nuts on the keyboard?


Game developers and movie producers don't have to incoporate new firmware requirements for thier movies and games; yet they would because it protects them piracy.
The fact is, sony is not removing the otherOS, instead they are removing their support for PS3 that has the OtherOS. The bottom line is basically, you are choosing to get your future support from third party group via OtherOS, or you can stick with Sony (but lose otherOS) and get support from them.


Or I can get custom firmware and get the best of both worlds. So no downside?

Breaking TOS and giving Sony the right for banning you off PSN, along with all the games you paid for, is a pretty big downside. But it is ok, you can rely on Mr.Hotz and the rest of the Hacker community for emotional support.



dsister44 on 17 April 2010
Wlakiz said:
dsister44 said:


Or I can get custom firmware and get the best of both worlds. So no downside?

Breaking TOS and giving Sony the right for banning you off PSN, along with all the games you paid for, is a pretty big downside. But it is ok, you can rely on Mr.Hotz and the rest of the Hacker community for emotional support.

Oh noe!!! :O 

They'll ban the account that I paid absolutely nothing for.

And what do you mean banning me from the games that I paid for?



Wlakiz on 17 April 2010
dsister44 said:
Wlakiz said:
dsister44 said:


Or I can get custom firmware and get the best of both worlds. So no downside?

Breaking TOS and giving Sony the right for banning you off PSN, along with all the games you paid for, is a pretty big downside. But it is ok, you can rely on Mr.Hotz and the rest of the Hacker community for emotional support.

Oh noe!!! :O 

They'll ban the account that I paid absolutely nothing for.

And what do you mean banning me from the games that I paid for?

Banning you off PSN is not limited to banning your account. It may include IP bans, locking your credit card or points from purchasing anything from PSN, removing your access to previouly purchased games on PSN.. etc etc...

If they get reallly nasty, they can remove your console specific decrpytion key from future Blu-Ray discs preventing you from playing future games/movies (think M$ blacklisting cracked windows keys).