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psrock on 15 April 2010
themanwithnoname said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
I guest we can put to rest FFVSXIII going multiplat.

Yup definetely, this has proven PS3 can carry a mainline FF, since it matched FF12's First NPD by itself.

But we would lose MSFT advertisement though. They had commercial everywhere for FXIII.

Ok BUT if it was PS3 Exclusive could have had a Kevin Butler FF13 commercial = MUCH better marketing than what MS gave FFXIII (Kevin Butler >>> Leona Lewis)

So it could have worked in its favour especially cus I'm sure SONY would have marketed it it BIG time 

BUT I do think the 360 sales are BIG enough to make sure we never get a exclusive Mainline FF ever again.


I don't see you guys' point here, particularly the discussion on the site about why it makes since to put Splinter Cell: Conviction or Mass Effect 2 on the PS3, when those would get trounced by the X360 version by more than double.

Also, no, Sony won't do an ad for Versus, just like Microsoft didn't do an ad for FF XIII. All they did was pay Square Enix a small fee to slap only their logo on the back end of it. Advertising is performed by the publisher, and the publisher for Final Fantasy XIII is Square Enix.

small fee like the one Chase charged me for overdraft or small fee like paying for the commeercials?



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themanwithnoname on 15 April 2010
psrock said:
themanwithnoname said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
I guest we can put to rest FFVSXIII going multiplat.

Yup definetely, this has proven PS3 can carry a mainline FF, since it matched FF12's First NPD by itself.

But we would lose MSFT advertisement though. They had commercial everywhere for FXIII.

Ok BUT if it was PS3 Exclusive could have had a Kevin Butler FF13 commercial = MUCH better marketing than what MS gave FFXIII (Kevin Butler >>> Leona Lewis)

So it could have worked in its favour especially cus I'm sure SONY would have marketed it it BIG time 

BUT I do think the 360 sales are BIG enough to make sure we never get a exclusive Mainline FF ever again.


I don't see you guys' point here, particularly the discussion on the site about why it makes since to put Splinter Cell: Conviction or Mass Effect 2 on the PS3, when those would get trounced by the X360 version by more than double.

Also, no, Sony won't do an ad for Versus, just like Microsoft didn't do an ad for FF XIII. All they did was pay Square Enix a small fee to slap only their logo on the back end of it. Advertising is performed by the publisher, and the publisher for Final Fantasy XIII is Square Enix.

small fee like the one Chase charged me for overdraft or small fee like paying for the commeercials?

The burden of proof is on you, not me. Microsoft has nothing to do with what kind of ad gets shown.



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

ImJustBayuum on 15 April 2010
Kasz216 said:
TheWon said:
SaviorX said:
psrock said:
SaviorX said:
360 beat PS3? ROFL

You are trying way too hard.

LOL You're funny.

I just find it hilarious. I mean, I'm aware of the shortages, but damn, Sony knew these games were coming and should have had some significant stock amounts to prepare for it. The fact that the 360 still won somehow just makes those software heavy hitters look irrelevant.

If you want to see me actually try, I'd get a couple warnings. You want some syrup to go with my ROFLs?

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"I've Heard reports that PS3 Shortages are expected to continue untils it outsells the  Xbox360!"

I gotta admit... that's a pretty good one.

lmao



psrock on 15 April 2010
themanwithnoname said:
psrock said:
themanwithnoname said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
I guest we can put to rest FFVSXIII going multiplat.

Yup definetely, this has proven PS3 can carry a mainline FF, since it matched FF12's First NPD by itself.

But we would lose MSFT advertisement though. They had commercial everywhere for FXIII.

Ok BUT if it was PS3 Exclusive could have had a Kevin Butler FF13 commercial = MUCH better marketing than what MS gave FFXIII (Kevin Butler >>> Leona Lewis)

So it could have worked in its favour especially cus I'm sure SONY would have marketed it it BIG time 

BUT I do think the 360 sales are BIG enough to make sure we never get a exclusive Mainline FF ever again.


I don't see you guys' point here, particularly the discussion on the site about why it makes since to put Splinter Cell: Conviction or Mass Effect 2 on the PS3, when those would get trounced by the X360 version by more than double.

Also, no, Sony won't do an ad for Versus, just like Microsoft didn't do an ad for FF XIII. All they did was pay Square Enix a small fee to slap only their logo on the back end of it. Advertising is performed by the publisher, and the publisher for Final Fantasy XIII is Square Enix.

small fee like the one Chase charged me for overdraft or small fee like paying for the commeercials?

The burden of proof is on you, not me. Microsoft has nothing to do with what kind of ad gets shown.

But they are responsible for the game being advertised as a MS game.



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Carl on 15 April 2010
themanwithnoname said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
I guest we can put to rest FFVSXIII going multiplat.

Yup definetely, this has proven PS3 can carry a mainline FF, since it matched FF12's First NPD by itself.

But we would lose MSFT advertisement though. They had commercial everywhere for FXIII.

Ok BUT if it was PS3 Exclusive could have had a Kevin Butler FF13 commercial = MUCH better marketing than what MS gave FFXIII (Kevin Butler >>> Leona Lewis)

So it could have worked in its favour especially cus I'm sure SONY would have marketed it it BIG time 

BUT I do think the 360 sales are BIG enough to make sure we never get a exclusive Mainline FF ever again.


I don't see you guys' point here, particularly the discussion on the site about why it makes since to put Splinter Cell: Conviction or Mass Effect 2 on the PS3, when those would get trounced by the X360 version by more than double.

Also, no, Sony won't do an ad for Versus, just like Microsoft didn't do an ad for FF XIII. All they did was pay Square Enix a small fee to slap only their logo on the back end of it. Advertising is performed by the publisher, and the publisher for Final Fantasy XIII is Square Enix.

"Small fee"? Bollocks.

You don't get exclusive advertising for one of the most hyped up games of the generation that's guarenteed to sell better on the other platform... For a "small fee".

And you think Sony wont push Versus if it stays exclusive? Especially with (what will be) way over 1 1/2 Million Final Fantasy XIII owners NOT on the PS3?

Versus XIII could potentially become a HUGE system seller.



                            

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themanwithnoname on 15 April 2010
Carl2291 said:
themanwithnoname said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
psrock said:
I guest we can put to rest FFVSXIII going multiplat.

Yup definetely, this has proven PS3 can carry a mainline FF, since it matched FF12's First NPD by itself.

But we would lose MSFT advertisement though. They had commercial everywhere for FXIII.

Ok BUT if it was PS3 Exclusive could have had a Kevin Butler FF13 commercial = MUCH better marketing than what MS gave FFXIII (Kevin Butler >>> Leona Lewis)

So it could have worked in its favour especially cus I'm sure SONY would have marketed it it BIG time 

BUT I do think the 360 sales are BIG enough to make sure we never get a exclusive Mainline FF ever again.


I don't see you guys' point here, particularly the discussion on the site about why it makes since to put Splinter Cell: Conviction or Mass Effect 2 on the PS3, when those would get trounced by the X360 version by more than double.

Also, no, Sony won't do an ad for Versus, just like Microsoft didn't do an ad for FF XIII. All they did was pay Square Enix a small fee to slap only their logo on the back end of it. Advertising is performed by the publisher, and the publisher for Final Fantasy XIII is Square Enix.

"Small fee"? Bollocks.

You don't get exclusive advertising for one of the most hyped up games of the generation that's guarenteed to sell better on the other platform... For a "small fee".

And you think Sony wont push Versus if it stays exclusive? Especially with (what will be) way over 1 1/2 Million Final Fantasy XIII owners NOT on the PS3?

Versus XIII could potentially become a HUGE system seller.


There's a 360 bundle for the game in all of NA and Europe. Why on earth wouldn't they want the bundle to get advertised?

Sony can push it all they want to, they still won't be the ones making ads for the game, otherwise they'd be publishing it.



themanwithnoname's law: As an America's sales or NPD thread grows longer, the probabilty of the comment "America = World" [sarcasticly] being made approaches 1.

Carl on 15 April 2010
themanwithnoname said:
Carl2291 said:

"Small fee"? Bollocks.

You don't get exclusive advertising for one of the most hyped up games of the generation that's guarenteed to sell better on the other platform... For a "small fee".

And you think Sony wont push Versus if it stays exclusive? Especially with (what will be) way over 1 1/2 Million Final Fantasy XIII owners NOT on the PS3?

Versus XIII could potentially become a HUGE system seller.

There's a 360 bundle for the game in all of NA and Europe. Why on earth wouldn't they want the bundle to get advertised.

Sony can push it all they want to, they still won't be the ones making ads for the game.

I can understand the bundle being advertised... But ONLY the 360 version of the game being advertised? Seriously? When the game was (is) OBVIOUSLY going to sell more on the PS3, and the main audience for the game was obviously on the PS3? That comes at no "small fee".

Red - What if Sony end up publishing it in America or Europe?



                            

FreeTalkLive on 15 April 2010
Cross-X said:

The top ten console retail software titles for March 2010 are as follows:

1. God of War III (Sony Santa Monica/SCEA, PS3), 1.10 million
2. Pokemon SoulSilver (Game Freak/Nintendo, NDS), 1.02 million
3. Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix, PS3), 828,200
4. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (DICE/Electronic Arts, Xbox 360), 825,500
5. Pokemon HeartGold (Game Freak/Nintendo, NDS), 761,200
6. Final Fantasy XIII (Square Enix, Xbox 360), 493,900
7. New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo, Wii), 457,400
8. Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (DICE/Electronic Arts, PS3), 451,200
9. Wii Fit Plus w/ Balance Board (Nintendo, Wii), 429,600
10. MLB 10: The Show (Sony San Diego/SCEA, PS3), 349,200

GOW III Topped March NPD for Single Platforms!!! Totally awesome stuff!!!

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thelifatree on 15 April 2010

Sony Published FF7. I doubt Square-Enix Wants Sony Publishing. Because they get less money.

I'm not entering your argument though.



binary solo on 15 April 2010
Hyruken said:

Ok then time for the nasty stuff

        VGC                       NPD              Difference
Wii - 641k                     557k             84k Overtracked (15% over)
360 - 462k                    338k             124k Overtracked (36% over)
Ps3 - 438k                    313k             125k Overtracked (39% over)
Ds - 627k                      700k              73k Undertracked (10% under)
Psp - 158k                    119k               39k Overtracked (32% over)
Ps2 - 82k                      118k               36k Undertracked (30% under)

Once again Ps3 is the highest overtracked product by 39%.

It would appear NPD believe 360 is selling average of 84k a week and PS3 78k a week.
Vgc has them at 115k a week for 360 and 109k for PS3.

Which means both 360 and PS3 are not selling anywhere near the high numbers currently VGC has them acording to NPD. I find that most interesting as we are lead to believe on here the demand is high, especially for the PS3.

According to my analysis of the inherent, known and generally accepted inaccuracies of both NPD and VGC estimate systems the following HW results are in reasonable agreement (i.e. the difference between the VGC number and the NPD number isn't statistically significant):

Wii & DS

This means there is a statistically significant difference between the NPD and VGC numbers for all the other systems. The most significant difference is for the PS2, the lowest significant difference is for the PSP. 360 and PS3 have similar significances of difference.

Any new information should lead to adjustments where the new information is at least as reliable as current information, but that new information still only forms part of the overall data upon which numbers are based. According to my analysis VGC USA estimate could be adjusted as follows*:

Wii & DS - No adjustment

360 dropped back to 394.3K (or -14.65% adjustment)

PS3 dropped back to 365.2K (or -16.63% adjustment)

PSP dropped back to 138.8K (or -12.13% adjustment)

PS2 brought up to 101.9K (or +24.28% adjustment)

*It all depends on what weighting NPD data gets relative to other VGC data.

Thus possibly adjusting total Americas to:

360: 463.4K (531K)

PS3: 430.6K (503K)

PSP: 162.4K (182K)

PS2: 114.2K (94K)

The big "winner" in terms of VGC is the Wii because it gets no downward adjustment so it remains in the number 1 spot for all HW (whereas it's #2 in NPD). DS is a bit hard done by because it gets no upward adjustment so it stays in the number 2 spot for all HW (whereas it's #1 in NPD).

So there you have it. Not the best month for correlation between VGC and NPD but not exactly a statistical disaster either.



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