Lost tears of Kain said: leo-j said: Gnizmo said: KZ2 easy can reach 3m+. =)     http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1112 A game that sold under a million on the PS2 is going to break 2 million on a system with less than 1/10th the install base? The reviews have it pegged as average at best as well. If a game like Ratchet and Clank suffers from lowered sales due to lower install base, then Killzone 2 is certainly going to suffer as well. They havent updated that since the Game detabase was created. Combine OTHERS(were it sold more) it should be around 2 million. The ps2 wasnt a shooter type system, the ps3 on the other hand is( resistance sold 2 million ) cod4 is about to make it to 1 million. KZ2 is a completely different game from killzone1. The gameplay vids say it all, you cant compare KZ1 with KZ2 in any way possible. Resistance was bundled We can compare it completely 1st Same developers, nothings changed there. 2. Same story 3. Same type of gameplay 4. Has killzone in the name

1. Killzone liberation..nuff said

2. The story was good in killzone 1

3. Incorrect, get some gameplay vids and compare

4.It was hyped as the halo killer and still is, it will sell well.

Even if we give it the 1.25 million extra from others to hit 2 million (which I doubt but maybe Japan can give it a tiny push as well), it still does not bode well. Yes, R:FoM did manage to break 2 million, but it was also bundled at times. The game also came from a developer that had an extremely solid background. Killzone 2 is from developers who hae 2 other FPS games under their belt, and neither one was all that great.

Their second Killzone game didn't even manage to break 500k on the PSP which has a very respectable install base. I am not saying the game can't be fun for some, or it won't look fantastic, but it is not going to even contribute to any change in the tides of the console wars. Yes it is very pretty, but so is Lair.

PS. Sorry for the cheapshot with Lair.

leo-j said: Lost tears of Kain said: leo-j said: Gnizmo said: KZ2 easy can reach 3m+. =)     http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1112 A game that sold under a million on the PS2 is going to break 2 million on a system with less than 1/10th the install base? The reviews have it pegged as average at best as well. If a game like Ratchet and Clank suffers from lowered sales due to lower install base, then Killzone 2 is certainly going to suffer as well. They havent updated that since the Game detabase was created. Combine OTHERS(were it sold more) it should be around 2 million. The ps2 wasnt a shooter type system, the ps3 on the other hand is( resistance sold 2 million ) cod4 is about to make it to 1 million. KZ2 is a completely different game from killzone1. The gameplay vids say it all, you cant compare KZ1 with KZ2 in any way possible. Resistance was bundled We can compare it completely 1st Same developers, nothings changed there. 2. Same story 3. Same type of gameplay 4. Has killzone in the name 1. Killzone liberation..nuff said 2. The story was good in killzone 1 3. Incorrect, get some gameplay vids and compare 4.It was hyped as the halo killer and still is, it will sell well.

i wouldnt say it still is the halo killer since it doesnt even come close to halo sales

I never said it will kill halo in sales, I just said its still hyped as the halo killer.

leo-j said: Gnizmo said: LOL, it`s PORTABLE market, where NINTENDO dominating. How it has effect on HOMESTATION consoles? SUPER MARIO GALAXY - JAPAN ? Name the PS3 title that sold more week one than SMG. I think that golf game might have. Anything else? Dynast warriors

 http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=6963 vs http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7695

 260k is bigger than 186k. 

leo-j said: Lost tears of Kain said: leo-j said: Gnizmo said: KZ2 easy can reach 3m+. =)     http://vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=1112 A game that sold under a million on the PS2 is going to break 2 million on a system with less than 1/10th the install base? The reviews have it pegged as average at best as well. If a game like Ratchet and Clank suffers from lowered sales due to lower install base, then Killzone 2 is certainly going to suffer as well. They havent updated that since the Game detabase was created. Combine OTHERS(were it sold more) it should be around 2 million. The ps2 wasnt a shooter type system, the ps3 on the other hand is( resistance sold 2 million ) cod4 is about to make it to 1 million. KZ2 is a completely different game from killzone1. The gameplay vids say it all, you cant compare KZ1 with KZ2 in any way possible. Resistance was bundled We can compare it completely 1st Same developers, nothings changed there. 2. Same story 3. Same type of gameplay 4. Has killzone in the name 1. Killzone liberation..nuff said 2. The story was good in killzone 1 3. Incorrect, get some gameplay vids and compare 4.It was hyped as the halo killer and still is, it will sell well.

1. ???????????? still the same developer?

2. ???????????again your only proving my point that they can be compared

3???????????both are shooters?

4. ??????????//HA?????????

leo-j said: I never said it will kill halo in sales, I just said its still hyped as the halo killer.

which will fall short,unless they make it better in quality then halo

Its not even competing with Halo. In all honesty, Halo is not a hard core shooter. Its a casual games shooter full of 12 year olds. It appeals to mainstream cause of its bright colors, cheesy charachters, cheesy one liners, humor, cheesy story, great music, the idea of a super soldier kicking ass, super jumping abilities, etc. Killzone is a hard core, gritty, dark,violent game. It wont appeal to the casuals.

@eundurance

So far the only thing they have gotten right is the graphcis over halo. Thats it so far.

gameplay also needs to get proven