This guy would probably argue that bank robbers are ok cause Banks do predatory lending and take advantage of people so individuals who spend their time planning on robbing banks for free are doing the right thing and banks deserve getting robbed.....

Ahahahhahahaha I laugh at your misunderstanding of what I wrote.  Did I say "no one ever had intent to make CFW"?  Nope.  I did say that, GeoHot has said (wether it is is truthful or not, that's to be seen) that *HE* (<--- see, I capitalized it and put asertiks around it) did not intend to make CFW, but now he has.  There was no intent from HIM to make CFW until 3.21 was announced.  This matters currently since, currently, he is the only person we know of that has the ability to do so.

So, while there may be intent from other people to eventually make CFW and more than likely a release of any hack to make game OS run unsigned code would probably lead to CFW, people weren't there yet and maybe wouldn't be there for a while or ever even if there was intent (the script kiddies that like to pirate and use CFW don't usually know how to do any actual hacking).  Thus, the only thing 3.21 did was make the one person (right now) who would know how to make CFW make CFW and make it *NOW*.

Perhaps it just sped up the CFW making or perhaps it made CFW happen, but in the end, it did nothing to prevent it and it made lots of people lose a feature with nothing in return (a more secure network is not something that has happened in returned, GeoHot seems to have no issues connecting to the PSN, plus you can have a secure network via policing better than you can with FW checks and other technical means as the technical means can always be circumvented)

Not sure.  While it is probably against the ToS for him to open and modify his PS3, it is not illegal for him to spread information on the process.  I'm pretty sure the Freedom of Information Act or Free Speech in general would protect him from any legal action regarding him telling people how to hack.

Exactly my point,  Sony is no saint, nor did they or I ever claim them to be.   But to say the Geohot hacking the PS3 is for the benefit of the consumer and that we should thank him because he did it out of his free time and goodwill make me sick.  

And he was wrong,  he did do it for profit,  because profit isnt always measured in dollar signs.

Yeah PSP piracy is rampant but so is DS piracy and 360 piracy (but less so, I will give the PSP that).  I do not want piracy to happen and, like you, I want to have awesome games and a secure system.  The thing is, the removal of other OS did *NOTHING* to make anything more secure.  He made CFW already.  DONE.

 Perhaps if it wasn't a feature to begin with then that'd be another story but that wasn't the case.  Other OS was a feature that some people paid money for and now, gone, for nothing.  I *DO* mind losing features my device is said to be able to do though I wouldn't mind if Sony gave me some of my money back for losing that feature, I'd be ok with that.

If I made geohot sound like some Robin Hood hero of the people, that was not my intention.  Geohot IS a douchebag, I should have been more clear.  He's just 1 one millionth the douchebag Sony is, and the fact that your ire is reserved specifically for him is troubling to me.

I don't think you should thank him, but my point was that his douchebaggery benefits normal people while Sony's douchebaggery benefits billionaires at normal people's expense.  Relatively speaking, I think geohot is the lesser of the two evils by a wide margin.

But to provide this 'hack' as a download for people in the future could potentially harm Sony finanically, which my non law degree would say is illegal without the protection of the constitution. So I would assume something like this would be something he should keep on the down low. oh well

Oh trust me my ire isnt specifically reservered for him.  

What I find troubling is you are comparing what every company in the world does, to a hacker, who exploits what hardworking individuals did for his own benefits.  All Sony is doing is trying to protect an investment, yes they only exist to make money off of me,  but in return I am still getting a product that I will enjoy because I bought it for that purpose.  Geohots actions could prevent me from getting those products if piracy becomes an issue on the PS3 like it has the PSP.   His being a douchebag benefits only him and pirates, and it hurts everyone else in the industry. 

Actually distributing some sort of hack file may be illegal.  I'm no lawyer.  I just know releasing written instructions or anything like that he should be safe.

@kyliedog

You're missing my point. Sure maybe it was more than just him, I don't care if it is 1000000000000 people (that's right, more people than there are on earth!)

The point is. 3.15 FW, no CFW exists. 3.21 gets announced and pushed through CFW exists. Sure there is a small, small chance that is is just pure coincidence and he/they/whomever had CFW all along and waited until now to unveil it, but if you think that is true, go buy lottery tickets, the chances of winning that are higher.

All that 3.21 did was speed up or (maybe, but probably not) create CFW. That's all it did besides have us lose a feature.

And no, he/whomever he works with could make CFW this fast because he/them has/have been the people working on hacking it, no one else, at least publically, admits so. So, you're telling me, if I make an API right now to allow for certain behaviors that me, being the creator of said API and having the most understanding of it, do not have a head start on making any sort of product that uses the API I created? You really think that? So you really think the creator of a hack has just as difficult a time to create something using that hack as anyone else?