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I saw plenty of difference, most notably color varieties improved, texture resolutions, frame numbers for animations (smooth), more pleasant appaerances (the cell shading used, but not over done shows definition better), the depth in to the background that's visible, take a look at the way Mario runs, I would guess only 8 frames or so per stride in Sunshine, per leg, while Galaxy is definitely more realistic in terms of bending, legs dangling, and such - the models look cleaner and seem to have more movement ability.

Also, we're looking at a compressed video here, unless you're viewing an uncompressed file, even Mario 64 will look similar to a lot of these scenes.

We could compare Halo 1 to Halo 2 and come to the conclusion it's similar, but I'm not entirely sure what the objective would be. And, of course studios use similar 3D models in other games, it makes sense. Mario certainly shouldn't gain 40 lbs, lose 40 lbs, start wearing a yellow outfit instead of red and blue, etc etc. Let's give Mario pink hair just so it looks different? No no, that's just wrong.

At some point, a sphere can only look so much more like a sphere.... all spheres are the same. The assumption in critical looks at differences is that a difference in models were even intended. It still looks better. Why mess with perfection when supposedly perfect is right in front of you? No reason to.

Did anyone hear the outcry about Sonic changing in appearance? If Mario looked drastically different, Mario would be more foreign, and that's certainly not the objective.

Anyway, this video more or less makes me want to play Sunshine, of which I've never even played before.



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Checkers Age and replayability > Halo Age and replayability

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Yajimari21 said:
He is trying to make a dig at the Wii/SMG, but common'... you guys have to admit that it Galaxy isn't hugely superior to Sunshine graphically (just like the Wii isn't much more powerful than the Gamecube). It's still a great game though... emphasis on the GAME part~ no reason to piss yourself trying to defend/attack it.

indeed

Guys its not that much superior, BUT, gameplay is where galaxy is at and makes it so awsome.

Its a good looking game nonetheless, but maybe not as good as people said, but that doesnt change the fact that its one of the best games ever made



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Soriku said:
Rath said:
Some people just don't know how to handle a ban.

Now we have as far as account spammers.

PS3 (2) - JJSeth, Hus
Wii (1) - GBallzack
360 (1) - W29.

 

Add Blue3 to PS3.

I didn't know that Blue3 spammed accounts? 



takkxyz said:
Aren't these videos slightly downscaled to help streamlining?

Yes but so was the Halo 2 vs. Halo 3 one and the difference between those two speaks for itself.  In the video I posted in this thread when SMG and SMS start using similar color choices the games start to look very close in terms of of graphics.  At the start of the video SMG looks better and a lot of it IMO has to do with the choice to use a pastel color scheme for SMS in those parts of the game.



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Rath said:
Some people just don't know how to handle a ban.

Now we have as far as account spammers.

PS3 (2) - JJSeth, Hus
Wii (1) - GBallzack
360 (1) - W29.

Rath.   When I got my ban I didn't spam with alternate accounts.   I did create an alt account that wasn't banned to communicate with the moderators in PM's.  Other then that.  Nope.   Only reason that wasn't banned was because I kept it to the PM's to discuss the ban and talk with them reasonably to promise them that I'd play nicely and no longer post pictures of Mario as a certain Fuhrer.



 


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MontanaHatchet said:
At least Legend wasn't the one saying it could match games on the PS3 or 360.

no that would be ign that said that

Legend11 said:
takkxyz said:
Aren't these videos slightly downscaled to help streamlining?

Yes but so was the Halo 2 vs. Halo 3 one and the difference between those two speaks for itself. In the video I posted in this thread when SMG and SMS start using similar color choices the games start to look very close in terms of of graphics. At the start of the video SMG looks better and a lot of it IMO has to do with the choice to use a pastel color scheme for SMS in those parts of the game.


 That sounds like a matter of opinion, I recommend calm down and think about some of the 360 game you want to play or something.

 

Note: Have not watched the video since I am at work 



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Legend: I have them both. I can tell you for a fact that not only do SMG's graphics look phenomenal compared to Super Mario Sunshine, but the sound is also fantastic in comparison. I'm not saying there are technical issues with Sunshine -- I didn't like it much myself -- but I believe SMG deserves its place as the best game released this year.

This is ridiculous. Play them both on the same TV and tell me that SMG doesn't look head-and-shoulders better.



Soriku said:
Surprisingly I'm not angry about this because he's made one too many "SMG sucks" threads and he gets pwned all around.

Remember, bannage is only a step away.

hes only trying to make SMG look bad because its better then all 360 games