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selnor said:
So a company in extremely close ties with Sony has doubts on NATAL.

*Rolls Eyes*

Some of those things may not make the final version of NATAL. We are going to see the final finished product this year. Notice last E3 they use the name 'Project' NATAL. This year the finished 'Project' will have a name.

Just because Sony showed the PS3 with a boomerang controller and changed it for release doesn't mean they falsely advertised. It happens during a working project.

Quantic Dream is a completely independent developer....and it's not like they haven't made a game for Microsoft before. Ninja Theory is the same way. 



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Why are some of you people talking shit about Quantic Dream like Sony owns them? They've always been a multiplat dev studio. Look at Natal more like the original Wiimote to the Wii right now is a more precious way of looking at it, it will improve over time, that's if it's a commercial success first.



Adobo said:
imagine if Peter Molyneux talk shit about the other consoles, man! Sony folks should take it easy on bashing though, it's not funny anymore.

Peter Molyneux can talk all the shit he wants, he's not significant anymore since his visions have been ridiculous for years now, a really really nice guy yes, but I'm still waiting for a game that actually has innovation from him like he used to be able to bring out to us all.



Guys, since when is David Cage a Sony fan? Because the dev made one PS3 exclusive?



Impulsivity said:
Like David Cage says, it is very unlikely that Natal is capable of doing several of the things presented in the promo unless A) it costs a good deal more then they sell it for or B) they acquired alien technology 100 years ahead of our own.

To capture a skateboard at HD resolution would require a very high quality camera. What many people forget is that static images look far different then motion images of the same quality. If you look at Youtube in motion it looks OK but stop it at a single frame and it looks horrible.

They show people in a sort of eyetoy esque game where they are interacting with Natal and can see themselves in some of their promotional material and, of course, the people look fine in motion which is probably the case. I don't doubt that, in motion, you can see people on the screen for a reasonable price (a lot of webcams manage this for 30-50 bucks) but I do doubt that an under 100 dollar motion capture camera rig can take high MP images that would allow for input into the game, do decent video capture and have all the hardware to capture motion at speed.

I mean the bit mapping and motion capture rigs used by major studios cost many many times what Natal costs just for that capability alone.

Also Quantic Dream is usually a multiplat developer. Their previous game, Indigo Prophecy, was out on Xbox, PC and PS3. I doubt that he is being fanboyish in his assessment.

The RGB camera is 1600 x 1200 so why couldn't it capture the skate board?



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dahuman said:
Why are some of you people talking shit about Quantic Dream like Sony owns them? They've always been a multiplat dev studio. Look at Natal more like the original Wiimote to the Wii right now is a more precious way of looking at it, it will improve over time, that's if it's a commercial success first.

They have a multiple game deal as far as I know. That makes David Cage a shill of Sony and hence he falls under their umbrella of 'tends to talk crap about other consoles' of which most of their major developers have partaken.



Tease.

Well coming from David Cage this really isn't surprising.



 

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ramses01 said:
Impulsivity said:
Like David Cage says, it is very unlikely that Natal is capable of doing several of the things presented in the promo unless A) it costs a good deal more then they sell it for or B) they acquired alien technology 100 years ahead of our own.

To capture a skateboard at HD resolution would require a very high quality camera. What many people forget is that static images look far different then motion images of the same quality. If you look at Youtube in motion it looks OK but stop it at a single frame and it looks horrible.

They show people in a sort of eyetoy esque game where they are interacting with Natal and can see themselves in some of their promotional material and, of course, the people look fine in motion which is probably the case. I don't doubt that, in motion, you can see people on the screen for a reasonable price (a lot of webcams manage this for 30-50 bucks) but I do doubt that an under 100 dollar motion capture camera rig can take high MP images that would allow for input into the game, do decent video capture and have all the hardware to capture motion at speed.

I mean the bit mapping and motion capture rigs used by major studios cost many many times what Natal costs just for that capability alone.

Also Quantic Dream is usually a multiplat developer. Their previous game, Indigo Prophecy, was out on Xbox, PC and PS3. I doubt that he is being fanboyish in his assessment.

The RGB camera is 1600 x 1200 so why couldn't it capture the skate board?

  It CAN capture it, just not at HD resolution.  

  You say "the RGB Camera is 1600 x 1200" as if that is a high quality camera.  That is fine for video chat type purposes, but not for still images.  1600x1200 isn't even 2 Megapixels.  Most modern cell phones even have 3-5 MPs these days because at any kind of decent resolution stuff taken at low resolution looks horrible when inserted into high resolution environments.

  It could capture the skateboard, just not at the quality depicted.  In actuality with the kind of camera the Natal has it would be heavily pixilated and look pretty bad in any kind of HD environment within the actual game itself. 




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Guess we will know soon enough what all the hype has been about.



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So David Cage thinks Camera's taking pictures is "Sci-Fi"?