Who is their audience on Wii now, though? In terms of definite brand loyalty, i don't see much in there. They've had successes and failures, but nothing they can make stick. My guess is they'll start from scratch on Wii2 like virtually everyone else is going to have to.

Oh no you misunderstand me

I don't mean their audience from the Wii.

You have to make an audience to bring an audience. They need to make good games, not "casual" games and "test" games (I so want to punch developers in the face for that; I'm not spending $50 for a game I don't want when it doesn't even have a guarantee I'll get games I want later on).

"I don't mean their audience from the Wii."

They don't have much of an audience on the HD systems, unless they bring their franchises over, and that's again just using the next system's specs as a crutch.

Yes, but I fully expect them to do this as a supplement for whatever new direction they take.

^ I agree with that. Thirds are in for a rude awakening if they think they can just wait until the next gen and have Wii type consumers take to them. What they need to do is start this gen in making games familiar to those consumers next gen. There has been a lot of established IP's that have been damaged due to them not appearing on the market leader to the point where those consumers won't even care about the next iteration.

In fact, it might be even worst for them next gen.

"Yes, but I fully expect them to do this as a supplement for whatever new direction they take."

I'm not claiming they won't do that. I'm claiming they shouldn't. Putting those games on the Wii is the way to prove the games are good because they are good, not because of the system specs.

BTW, as much as I like Chop Till You Drop, it does show how flawed the original game was. Just the snobcore refuse to see it that way.

Then we don't disagree.

i like page 9

did you notice that VGChartz was the source for some of those charts

EDIT: I see I opened this tab this morning, and was way late to posting that