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Bet: Ps3 Will Reach The 55 Million Mark Before The 360 Will. Am I A Fool?

Yes You Are 60 34.48%
 
No You Aren't 84 48.28%
 
why do you capitalize every godd*m word? 30 17.24%
 
Total:174

Well, it could happend, if the PS3 cut the price one again.

Last holliday, i bought my PS3... so everything can happen.



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axt113 said:
With the 360 slim coming out, and the impending failure of NATAL and Move, its unlikely


so it's been confirmed



I think you got a pretty good chance of it happening. PS3 will probably keep outselling the 360 on a weekly basis until MS either pricecuts or releases Natal or both. But then again, Sony isn't going to just let them take back the ground they made up these last 6 months. I see them doing a small pricecut after MS does.

Plus, in my opinion, Move has a little bit better chance of catching on then Natal. I see Natal coming out and not being able to live up to the incredible hype MS has put out surrounding it. Plus, the fact that most 360 gamers aren't going to want to pay ~ $100 for the ability to play casual games. In response to this, I think MS will try to put out some type of controller for the device, but it will be too little too late. Not that I think Move will be a huge success. Just that it has a better chance, as it's much easier to bring in the core gamer, too.



Rickz0r said:
Siko1989 said:
i might go opposite and say 360 will make 55 million before the ps3.. so i except the bet lol

You except the bet? ^^

yes i do except the bet lol




It's so unpredictable at this point. There are rumors of a slim 360 and none of us know for sure if Natal and Move will have an impact. If they do, we don't know how little or big it will be.

Having said that, I'm willing to take this bet with you. I want PS3 to end up second this generation, but the last four years have shown me that MS is taking this shit pretty seriously. So yeah, What's the bet? I'm biting.



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Rickz0r said:
fighter said:
i'll take you up on the bet




oh, and btw, no analysis could predict the result except the will of companies to invest


I'm currently working in a marketing company. And we have good relations with alot of gaming company's (That includes Microsoft & Sony). We research what's the best way to advertise a product for a certain focus group. Microsoft asked us before to make a survey for about 15000 people (Aged 12 (Most parents helped children under 18) - 60 ), about controller-less gaming and if it would (re-)ignite their gaming - flame. The survey wasn't so possitive at all, with alot of 40+ people saying that the Wii fullfilled their gaming needs / they didn't feel like gaming anyway. I don't think natal will be a great succes at all. I'm not saying the Move is any different, but it's more like the Wii then Natal, and seems to focus a bit more on Hardcore games / Unique experiences (Heavy Rain) .

That's why I think that when both Natal and Move are launched, the Ps3 will keep on selling better then the 360. And since no analysis is conclusive, your statement is as bold as they come.

Wouldn't the move being like the Wii be completley irrevelent in such a study? 

Also uh... such a study should be kept confidential unless you go through the proper channels to be allowed to use said information. 



I wanna take that bet with someone else. I say PS3 reaches it firts



fighter said:
Rickz0r said:
fighter said:
i'll take you up on the bet




oh, and btw, no analysis could predict the result except the will of companies to invest


I'm currently working in a marketing company. And we have good relations with alot of gaming company's (That includes Microsoft & Sony). We research what's the best way to advertise a product for a certain focus group. Microsoft asked us before to make a survey for about 15000 people (Aged 12 (Most parents helped children under 18) - 60 ), about controller-less gaming and if it would (re-)ignite their gaming - flame. The survey wasn't so possitive at all, with alot of 40+ people saying that the Wii fullfilled their gaming needs / they didn't feel like gaming anyway. I don't think natal will be a great succes at all. I'm not saying the Move is any different, but it's more like the Wii then Natal, and seems to focus a bit more on Hardcore games / Unique experiences (Heavy Rain) .

That's why I think that when both Natal and Move are launched, the Ps3 will keep on selling better then the 360. And since no analysis is conclusive, your statement is as bold as they come.

 

I'm currently working in a marketing company too. I'm specialized in network effects and format wars. When i'm telling you there is no way to predict the outcome it's simply because there is no way to predict it.

If you don't agree with me ask Eisenmann at the Harvard Business School.

 

Simply put, the value of a network evolves constantly and the most pertinent factor of it's outcome against competition is investment. Even that parameter cannot be relied on. In the end it's merely a KPI among others. The second one would be differentiation, but as you can see this gen Wii gave the impression differenciation would be more important than investment.

My statement as you can see is not bold but prudent.

Check the bolded, what I said was true. Not a single analysis is conclusive and yet you made another bold statement. (Underlined)

You can predict anything, it's just that the accuracy of your prediction can be very low. 

 



Is anyone going to remember this bet by the time it happens?



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