Funny, really.  Super Mario World 2 doesn't count because you use Yoshi.  Super Mario 2 doesn't count because it was originally another game.  Grasping at straws are we?

Let me try and explain this one more time; hopefully you'll understand.  I never said anything negative about the 2D Super Mario games.  They are phenomenal games that always do well, and rightfully so.  What I said was Super Mario 64 was the right way to go at the time of its release.  A 2D Super Mario just wouldn't have pushed as much hardware in the face of the Playstation at that time.  Would it have sold well?  Absolutely.  Should they have gone 2D again later on the Gamecube?  Probably, as I didn't enjoy Sunshine nearly as much as any other Mario game.  The 15+ years point was not the main reason NSMB did well, but it certainly helped.  Again, not "garbage" as you stated.

Your continued arguments all stem from the simple fact that I originally pointed out that you were wrong about the DS sales slowing down, as last year was its biggest year yet.  Someone pointed out that the 3DS was announced despite that the DS was still selling well, which was a good point, but you obviously think you know more than anyone else on this forum.  "Think" being the key word.

You continue to throw around "weak" and "learn more about the market" over and over again simply because you have no other way of responding when your arguments are proven wrong, just like they were with your latest "no exceptions" rant.

Sad, axt113, very sad.  Perhaps one day YOU will understand how the market works, then your "suggestion" might actually mean something.

Try playing Guitar Hero on the wii - it's near impossible. I'm having a look for the source, but if you are so sure, make a video showing the low latency

A big criticism of Killzone was the unresponsive controls. Amazing how all the wii supporters seem to have no idea of gaming outside of the wii.

Sorry, I'm not into casual shovelware.  I'm also not the one trying to prove latency issues here, put up or shut up.

I played GH3 on the Wii - it syncs up with the lag from some HD displays, and you can actually calibrate the amount that it needs to compensate, so.... it's a really bad example, since it can ignore all reasonable lag.

Guitar hero shovelware?

Right, and there goes all your credibility. And so far I've shown it to be around 2.5ms, what do you have?

Actually you've repeatedly failed to cite any actual legitimate references.  Protip: pulling numbers from your ass isn't showing us.

And credibility?  I'm not the casual who plays GH.  lol.

Yeah because GH is a casual game like Sonic racing....Congrats, you clearly no **** all about everything to do with gaming.

Anyway you are digressing. Why would wii owners, people who do not care about graphics or AI, upgrade to another console? They do not care about hardware, so selling a next gen console with the promise of better hardware, as all are, is not going to be a selling point is it?

Judging by your posts and behaviour i´ve probably been gaming longer then you existed.

I knew about the lag issues of killzone 2 but according to you that level of lag is unplayable for any serious gamer and yet there are gamers praising that game.

Also lag around 165ms or lower are unoticable to gamers according to one of the links in one of the posts in the last 2 pages.

Show us proof that the lag is 180 cause the only serious lag ive noticed in games are the poorly made ones and that kind of games you will have lag on any system.

So show some proof or stop posting your bullshit.

again, if they system has games that they want, they will buy it. that's all the reason that they need.