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ZenfoldorVGI said:
lol, the game didn't bomb, it was a huge success. If by "bomb" you mean "didn't get the reviews some people expected" then no, every FF changes the formula, so they could very easily be right back to critical acclaim with the next entry.

Either way, critical acclaim isn't required for a game to be great, or even your favorite game ever. For a long time, Radiant Dawn was my favorite game this gen(it got very medicore reviews), and I still like it a billion times more than LBP, so really, what does critical acclaim matter anyway?

Guns and Roses called they want their song back! lol good post!



 

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Khuutra said:
dtewi said:

Dude, you could NOT have said a WORSE thing at the end of your post.

OT: No.

He says, after having played neither.

OT:

Nah, not really. Keep in mind, the genre is a lot older than the PS2 and has staying power out the wazoo. FF's popularity might be waning, but Pokemon is goingn strong an Dragon Quest is actually getting more popular with time.

Also, you might be able to draw some kind of link between FF sales performance and the fact that it is the first Final Fantasy not on a first-place console.  So even believing that FF is waning based on Japanese XIII sales seems a bit myopic.

 

 

 



 

rpg70 said:
You all are looking at the numbers wrong. All sales were due to past FF players me included, buying a game we all once loved. How many 1st time gamers bought this game? we'll never know. But i cant imagine many with the poor reviews this game got. The true numbers will be in the weeks to come and ill be accepting your apoligies then.

You, nor anyone else, has any idea the ratio of new gamers to old, for the FF series, and without old gamers, many great franchises would have died off. I highly doubt that anyone turned off by XIII would not buy XV, simply because people are generally well informed, and they know that the franchise changes with each entry. Bad reviews don't equate to bad sales anymore than good reviews equate to good sales, and whatever FF's legs look like, they will NOT be attributal to reviews, no matter how much you want to pretend they are.

As for your analysis that FF's sales will slump in the coming weeks due to reviews, surely you must know that high end titles are always very frontloaded, and FF's will be too, I don't care if it was the highest rated game of all time. Get real.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

rpg70 said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
lol, the game didn't bomb, it was a huge success. If by "bomb" you mean "didn't get the reviews some people expected" then no, every FF changes the formula, so they could very easily be right back to critical acclaim with the next entry.

Either way, critical acclaim isn't required for a game to be great, or even your favorite game ever. For a long time, Radiant Dawn was my favorite game this gen(it got very medicore reviews), and I still like it a billion times more than LBP, so really, what does critical acclaim matter anyway?

Guns and Roses called they want their song back! lol good post!

lol, woot!

Thank you! :)



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Khuutra said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Johann said:
The JRPG genre is as popular now as its ever been in previous generations.

FF's popularity is the one that is falling.

And by the way, 5 million sales is bombing? I know several companies who would love these kinds of "bombs".

JRPG's are no where near as popular as they were in previous generations. WRPG's are finally gaining popularity and JRPG's are losing the grandure they once had. I've said it once and I'll say it again....JRPG's went on a crash course after the Square Enix merger.

Generally JRPG sales are about on level with last gen's....


Not when SE is leading the way. SE had Wii first party sales last gen....don't twist things. SE enjoyed 15 M+ in sales off of the PS2 alone and because of the split ownership of the PS2 owners moving to either the wii or 360 as well as the PS3 forced the lastest to go multiplat besides other business deals.



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Alic0004 said:
Khuutra said:
dtewi said:

Dude, you could NOT have said a WORSE thing at the end of your post.

OT: No.

He says, after having played neither.

OT:

Nah, not really. Keep in mind, the genre is a lot older than the PS2 and has staying power out the wazoo. FF's popularity might be waning, but Pokemon is goingn strong an Dragon Quest is actually getting more popular with time.

Also, you might be able to draw some kind of link between FF sales performance and the fact that it is the first Final Fantasy not on a first-place console.  So even believing that FF is waning based on Japanese XIII sales seems a bit myopic.

 

 

 

JRPG sales have nothing to do with not being on a first place comsole. It has everything to do with the quality of the launch JRPG's and the major focus Sony has on the western audience.



Sales are ok but not like they use to be. It may have lost some of its fanbase because of the direction it steered into. But it's gained a lot of casual interest in returned. Example: I love the series from VI to X because of the deep stories and my beloved turn-base system. A lot of people despise that battle system. Square Enix believed if they made its combat system more user friendly that it would gain both the fans and new (casual) gamers. Of course, there drop in sales says it all ...

Please don't take that as fact, that's what I just believe.

As much as I tried (and believe me I tried) I personally stopped caring for the franchise as soon as that disgrace of a combat system was introduced in XII. The story only had me going for so long before I finally quit on it.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

Oh absolutely it is over. Who made FF the way it was? Hironobu Sakaguchi. He is gone and is working on Last Story. Yoshinori Kitase wasn't the director for the previous games, just the producer.



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Khuutra said:

Generally JRPG sales are about on level with last gen's....

Not when SE is leading the way. SE had Wii first party sales last gen....don't twist things. SE enjoyed 15 M+ in sales off of the PS2 alone and because of the split ownership of the PS2 owners moving to either the wii or 360 as well as the PS3 forced the lastest to go multiplat besides other business deals.

Bwuh?

S-E looks like it's going to have DS sales in range of its PS2 sales.

I'm not twisting things: all I am doing is suggesting that your criteria for judging the genre is entirely too narrow.



Damn op wrong on some many level its nuts.