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BTW one of the core Amiga inventors is currently working on PS3 projects. RJ Mical is for example in the credits of Uncharted 2: Amongst thieves (Senior Manager, Platform Team), last year's game of the year.



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darklich13 said:
nightsurge said:
And I'm sure if you look back further Amiga got their inspiration from something else and so on and so forth.

The Joyboard came out in 1982.

So you're saying that MikeB is too short sighted and it actually traces back much further to things like the Joyboard in the 1980s?

Figures.  MikeB always was a blatant Amiga and now PS3 "enthusiast" through and through.



nightsurge said:
darklich13 said:
nightsurge said:
And I'm sure if you look back further Amiga got their inspiration from something else and so on and so forth.

The Joyboard came out in 1982.

So you're saying that MikeB is too short sighted and it actually traces back much further to things like the Joyboard in the 1980s?

Figures.  MikeB always was a blatant Amiga and now PS3 "enthusiast" through and through.

Quit hating on everything Mike says.

The Joyboard is the AMIGA Joyboard. Mike talks about it in the OP.

"Also for example Wii-Fit from basic idea point of view is also pretty similar to the Amiga Joyboard, a balance board controller from 1982. You would balance on the board to surf or ski."

You would know this if you actually read what he had wrote and didn't just hate on what was there.



                            

@ nightsurge

I am a tech enthusiast, the Amiga was amazing tech back then. The PS3 is amazing tech today for its price point and has very talented teams working on games and multimedia (the stuff which caught my attention with regard to the Amiga). The Amiga was more unique for its time, but on the other hand the PS3 has Sony's full support, the Amiga tech was bought by Commodore which sadly severely lacked vision. As a tech entusiast I see a lot of potential.



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Cheebee said:

It doesn't really matter who first came up with the initial idea, it's who took the idea and made it into something big, appealing and successful. And while Sony or any other company may or may not have come up with some/a lot of great concepts in videogaming first, fact remains it was Nintendo who pioneered most of the things that are now considered industry standards by intuitively implementing them and making them successful. Some examples would be the D-pad, shoulder buttons, analog sticks, rumble, touchscreen gaming, Z-targeting, 3D platforming and motion sensing. Whether these may or may not have been Nintendo's own inventions is beside the point: they are the ones who made it into what it is these days.

They are the one that some people think made these things big, but public perception is often more important than reality. 



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Wonktonodi said:
Cheebee said:

It doesn't really matter who first came up with the initial idea, it's who took the idea and made it into something big, appealing and successful. And while Sony or any other company may or may not have come up with some/a lot of great concepts in videogaming first, fact remains it was Nintendo who pioneered most of the things that are now considered industry standards by intuitively implementing them and making them successful. Some examples would be the D-pad, shoulder buttons, analog sticks, rumble, touchscreen gaming, Z-targeting, 3D platforming and motion sensing. Whether these may or may not have been Nintendo's own inventions is beside the point: they are the ones who made it into what it is these days.

They are the one that some people think made these things big, but public perception is often more important than reality. 

Not quite sure what you're trying to say there... who do you think 'the public' thinks made these things, then? I'm pretty sure whenever you mention things like '3D platforming', 'D-pad', or 'motion sensing', they will think of Nintendo, not some obscure company from the '80's or earlier that most people have probably never even heard of.



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Cheebee said:
Wonktonodi said:
Cheebee said:

It doesn't really matter who first came up with the initial idea, it's who took the idea and made it into something big, appealing and successful. And while Sony or any other company may or may not have come up with some/a lot of great concepts in videogaming first, fact remains it was Nintendo who pioneered most of the things that are now considered industry standards by intuitively implementing them and making them successful. Some examples would be the D-pad, shoulder buttons, analog sticks, rumble, touchscreen gaming, Z-targeting, 3D platforming and motion sensing. Whether these may or may not have been Nintendo's own inventions is beside the point: they are the ones who made it into what it is these days.

They are the one that some people think made these things big, but public perception is often more important than reality. 

Not quite sure what you're trying to say there... who do you think 'the public' thinks made these things, then? I'm pretty sure whenever you mention things like '3D platforming', 'D-pad', or 'motion sensing', they will think of Nintendo, not some obscure company from the '80's or earlier that most people have probably never even heard of.

well what about analog sticks I think peopel would think of sony for that even if they didn't use it first but because they used 2 and things got big with it during late ps days.    Not some obscure company from the 80s,  just saying how not even all the things on your first list are things that all would associate with Nintedo first.  Some rightly so and others it gets associated with someone who used it latter than instead of before nintendo. 

I guess what I was getting at is that people try use public perception to complain about a company making a copy of something when at the same time the public perception is often wrong.  So those that are complaining have a misguided complaint. 



famousringo said:
Thomas Edison didn't invent the light bulb. He just perfected it and brought it successfully to market, revolutionizing lighting technology.

But who cares about him. He didn't invent it. That's why the name Frederick de Moleyns is so famous today while Edison has faded into obscurity.

Just amazing how that public perception works huh? 



@ famousringo

Sadly marketing and commercial success play an enormous part in the perception of people. For example many people think Microsoft wrote (the technically horrible) MSDOS, while in fact the a sole programmer copied source codes of CP/M and Microsoft only bought this from the programmer when the OS was still called Quick and Dirty OS (QDOS) for 25,000 dollars. (lack of insight by IBM managers then made Microsoft into what it is today)



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