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Which HD console will reach 60m first?

Xbox 360 (Natal/Halo/pricecuts to the rescue) 66 25.38%
 
PlayStation 3 (slimomentum + GT5 savior) 138 53.08%
 
Wii HD (lol Pachter) 18 6.92%
 
None (everyone putters ou... 38 14.62%
 
Total:260
sergiodaly on 07 March 2010
astrosmash said:
sergiodaly said:
superchunk said:
not going to happen. 2012 will usher in new machines and as usual the "losers" will fade out really quickly.

with the low 3rd party support the "winner" is getting my feeling is that the "winner" is the one that is going to fade out quickly. the "losers" can still survive for some time with the devs and publishers support...

 

If we assume the 2012 date to be true, who do you think is more likely to buy a 7 year old game console in 2013, the demographs that frequent the Wii or the demographs that frequent the HD consoles?

in 2012 with nearly no 3rd party support (not saying its going to happen but all clues point to that) and only nintendo games coming out, there may be somebody to buy it, but many people with no money to upgrade to the next gen and still getting the games for the current one might do the purchase... nintendo have very popular and strong franchises, but they aren't that many, and the HD twins seems to also have some very popular and strong franchises but they are in bigger number and in bigger genres so they appeal to larger demographics...

IMO

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Arius Dion on 07 March 2010
sergiodaly said:
astrosmash said:
sergiodaly said:
superchunk said:
not going to happen. 2012 will usher in new machines and as usual the "losers" will fade out really quickly.

with the low 3rd party support the "winner" is getting my feeling is that the "winner" is the one that is going to fade out quickly. the "losers" can still survive for some time with the devs and publishers support...

 

If we assume the 2012 date to be true, who do you think is more likely to buy a 7 year old game console in 2013, the demographs that frequent the Wii or the demographs that frequent the HD consoles?

in 2012 with nearly no 3rd party support (not saying its going to happen but all clues point to that) and only nintendo games coming out, there may be somebody to buy it, but many people with no money to upgrade to the next gen and still getting the games for the current one might do the purchase... nintendo have very popular and strong franchises, but they aren't that many, and the HD twins seems to also have some very popular and strong franchises but they are in bigger number and in bigger genres so they appeal to larger demographics...

IMO

Yeah, because the Wii's success is mainly because of the quality Third Party support the system's received thus far.



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CommonMan on 07 March 2010

I picked the xbox after I read binary solo's post, read that one.

Off topicish, I wonder if this was for 40 million would the PS3 still win? I bet it would at least get votes.



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Jansky8 on 07 March 2010
Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
PS3.

360 depends on if Natal takes off Wii-sized. Which i don't think it will be.

doesnt need anywhere near wii-sized reaction.. binary solo post above will help clear that fog in your mind....

Yeah well, only cool people post before reading the entire thread.

I am so cool, I dont even know what this thread is about



astrosmash on 07 March 2010
sergiodaly said:
astrosmash said:
sergiodaly said:
superchunk said:
not going to happen. 2012 will usher in new machines and as usual the "losers" will fade out really quickly.

with the low 3rd party support the "winner" is getting my feeling is that the "winner" is the one that is going to fade out quickly. the "losers" can still survive for some time with the devs and publishers support...

 

If we assume the 2012 date to be true, who do you think is more likely to buy a 7 year old game console in 2013, the demographs that frequent the Wii or the demographs that frequent the HD consoles?

in 2012 with nearly no 3rd party support (not saying its going to happen but all clues point to that) and only nintendo games coming out, there may be somebody to buy it, but many people with no money to upgrade to the next gen and still getting the games for the current one might do the purchase... nintendo have very popular and strong franchises, but they aren't that many, and the HD twins seems to also have some very popular and strong franchises but they are in bigger number and in bigger genres so they appeal to larger demographics...

IMO

 

Ah, I understand. We are coming at this problem with completely different notions of what sells a console after its gen is over.

 

You see, I don't believe there is such a thing as a "system  seller" game in the waning years of a console's life; at least not a newly released system seller. I am working on the presumption that sales of a system which occur in the next gen are driven by its existing library and the low price (for both hardware and games).

 

I should further note that the make of the library of the Wii would (imo) be an advantage to its lifespan, not a hindrence. By having a small number of very popular games means that retailers like Walmart could give a small amount of prime shelf space to Wii, yet still feature all the games its best known for. Meanwhile, the bargain bins will be over flowing with games that might be priced even lower than the PS2 games are priced there today.

 



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Tecmo on 07 March 2010

i think it depends on how Natal and Arc are received (mostly Natal)

if Natal is received well and its fun to play games with then 360, but if it sucks and no one really likes it my money would be on the ps3



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sergiodaly on 07 March 2010
Arius Dion said:
sergiodaly said:
astrosmash said:
sergiodaly said:
superchunk said:
not going to happen. 2012 will usher in new machines and as usual the "losers" will fade out really quickly.

with the low 3rd party support the "winner" is getting my feeling is that the "winner" is the one that is going to fade out quickly. the "losers" can still survive for some time with the devs and publishers support...

 

If we assume the 2012 date to be true, who do you think is more likely to buy a 7 year old game console in 2013, the demographs that frequent the Wii or the demographs that frequent the HD consoles?

in 2012 with nearly no 3rd party support (not saying its going to happen but all clues point to that) and only nintendo games coming out, there may be somebody to buy it, but many people with no money to upgrade to the next gen and still getting the games for the current one might do the purchase... nintendo have very popular and strong franchises, but they aren't that many, and the HD twins seems to also have some very popular and strong franchises but they are in bigger number and in bigger genres so they appeal to larger demographics...

IMO

Yeah, because the Wii's success is mainly because of the quality Third Party support the system's received thus far.

well ... we were talking about after the next gen arrives, not by today standard or market tendency. but this is really a question of opinion.

btw about the OP... i would prefer to be the ps3 but who knows!

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jarrod on 07 March 2010
sergiodaly said:
Arius Dion said:
sergiodaly said:
astrosmash said:
sergiodaly said:
superchunk said:
not going to happen. 2012 will usher in new machines and as usual the "losers" will fade out really quickly.

with the low 3rd party support the "winner" is getting my feeling is that the "winner" is the one that is going to fade out quickly. the "losers" can still survive for some time with the devs and publishers support...

 

If we assume the 2012 date to be true, who do you think is more likely to buy a 7 year old game console in 2013, the demographs that frequent the Wii or the demographs that frequent the HD consoles?

in 2012 with nearly no 3rd party support (not saying its going to happen but all clues point to that) and only nintendo games coming out, there may be somebody to buy it, but many people with no money to upgrade to the next gen and still getting the games for the current one might do the purchase... nintendo have very popular and strong franchises, but they aren't that many, and the HD twins seems to also have some very popular and strong franchises but they are in bigger number and in bigger genres so they appeal to larger demographics...

IMO

Yeah, because the Wii's success is mainly because of the quality Third Party support the system's received thus far.

well ... we were talking about after the next gen arrives, not by today standard or market tendency. but this is really a question of opinion.

btw about the OP... i would prefer to be the ps3 but who knows!

NES/FC and SNES/SFC had great 1st party support after their successors launched, and basically *nothing* sells like upper tier Nintendo games (not GT, not Halo, not GTA, not COD).  I'm not sure what you're basing this on exactly?



abcdario on 07 March 2010

I voted for the PS3, i also think the only thing that can save the X360 is a huge price cut and the elite to be at a U$179 price.

Let´s remember the huge momentum the PS2 got after it reached certain price ;)



hunter_alien on 07 March 2010

I voted none, tough both have the chance to pass that number, and even tough I would give the edge in that case for the 360 I still dont think that the gen will be as long as either companies tell us. If the motion controll "revolution" goes wrong, IMO this gen could easily end in 2012. If Natal is a success, then Sony might try and quickstart a generation by releasing the PS4 early. I doubt that the Arc has any chance to be a monster, tough it might be a serious hardware pusher. Either case, if neither or just one of the motion controllers are failures, we could see the 8th gen faster then we might believe...



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