hey soleron, be positive. If all the ps3s are now dead, nobody will buy heavy rain and you will be successful!

I was waiting to buy this until i read what everyone on the forums thought, and it seems to be really positive, so I think I'll pick it up. Unfortunately, it'll still probably wait till after FF13 and GoW3, but it'll give me a good reason to still play the PS3 following those games...

I definitely agree. Having good writers on a story helps make a game more immersive. Thus, well written games like Heavy Rain and Mass Effect definitely find an audience. I am hoping that their success encourages more companies to spend more time on plot and backround.

Busty? No more busty than Elena Fischer

seems to me that the "masses" want something new??

A couple of thoughts on your question of why it didn't flop (although I'll wait for official numbers to be fully sure it hasn't!).

First, clearly Heavy Rain probably had a greater chance to flop than many other games, and I can understand why that probably led many to be more pessimistic about the game.

In the end, I feel a couple of elements came together for the title:

1 - I felt the general marketing and approach for the title was good, giving it a good chance of connecting with the right kind of PS3 owner who would be interested in it. A lot of more niche games flop simply because the demographic who might well like it simply don't know it exists or don't realize the game's basic mechanics would appeal to them. Heavy Rain seems to have avoided this common trap

2 - it's reviewed well and I think pretty consistently. This has helped 1) above in terms of confirming if you're interested in what HR offers it does a good job of delivering. Bad reviews slamming awful QTE events, for example, could really have hurt the title and put off many prospective buyers hooked on the marketing

3 - there is an audience for mature (I don't mean T&A mature I mean adult themes mature) titles like this and not many titles around to satisfy that audience, so HR I believe actually had little competition and was able to connect strongly to the admitedly smaller potential demand base for it

4 - it appeals to older gamers both in terms of being mature but also actually being somewhat like a modern version of a 'point and click' adventure title - a genre that, while full of wacky stuff also had a fair amount of mature titles as well


That's my thoughts off the top of my head.

Now, I get my new PS3 tomorrow, I already have HR on a shelf waiting for my broken PS3 to be switched, and there's a bug hitting fat PS3s (which is what I'm having replaced), so I'm in torture as I've had the game since release but can't actually play it!

Damn you Sony! Fix that clock!

True... but Deadly Premonition is one of a kind. Its one of those titles that start out big and then also have legs for years. Mark my words, it will sell more then  Halo Reach and MW2 in the longrun But at least its one of those games that deserve it. It has all the pretty graphics, story and gameplay

People underestimate Heavy Rain, its different but a superb game, the demo was great, I am buying next week on pay day, The conduit did not do well because it was a very average shooter on a platform that does not wow you with shooters, it went up against so many other shooters so much better on PS3 and 360, the Wii just is not a console for shooters, its like this, would you rather play a shooter on the PS2 or PS3 , PS3 no question, that is why the conduit did poorly, if it was on 360 or PS3 with HD graphics, Dolby Digital, Fast frame Rate, with XBL or PSN it would of done much better.

Its a fun game. Why it did not flop compared to Lair defeats me. I very much enjoyed Lair and wished it well. As I do with Heavy Rain. I am glad to see that Heavy Rain has sold so well in its first week. I predict close to 2 million in the end for it, very admirable.

Arf? What's not plausible about it? (pm me if you need to :))