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great for Heavy Rainm but to be fair, it was a very quite week afterall.



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Legend11 said:
What?  He's the one that called out another game, I'm just asking if he's going to hold Heavy Rain to the same standard and I guess apparently not from his response.

Why would Heavy Rain be held to the standard of Mass Effect 2 or Uncharted 2? Nobody expected that much from Heavy Rain, well, outside of Sony execs....



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Legend11 said:
Doobie_wop said:
Legend11 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
ME2 already below Uncharted 2 ? Horrible legs...then again, TPS appeals to a wider audience then RPGs..


I guess we'll get to see how impressive Heavy Rain's legs are in the next couple of weeks.  You'll be calling it horrible right if it falls below Uncharted 2?  Hell what are you going to call it if it falls below Mass Effect 2?


His just making an observation, one that happen's to be true. You just seem to be taking offence for no reason and calling out another game in the process.

On topic, I can't understand what would have made Uncharted 2 have such a big jump from the previous week?


What?  He's the one that called out another game, I'm just asking if he's going to hold Heavy Rain to the same standard and I guess apparently not from his response.

Well if he didn't hold Heavy Rain to the same standard then that only makes him a fool, but he hasn't had a chance to say anything yet so we don't know what his intentions were.



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Demotruk said:
Legend11 said:
What?  He's the one that called out another game, I'm just asking if he's going to hold Heavy Rain to the same standard and I guess apparently not from his response.

Why would Heavy Rain be held to the standard of Mass Effect 2 or Uncharted 2? Nobody expected that much from Heavy Rain, well, outside of Sony execs....


The game has been in development in one form or another since 2006 and it's considered a big budget game.  So I have to ask you, why aren't you holding it up to the same standard as Mass Effect 2 and Uncharted 2?  I'm curious, do you hold Alan Wake up to the same standard as those two games?



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Legend11 said:
Demotruk said:
Legend11 said:
What?  He's the one that called out another game, I'm just asking if he's going to hold Heavy Rain to the same standard and I guess apparently not from his response.

Why would Heavy Rain be held to the standard of Mass Effect 2 or Uncharted 2? Nobody expected that much from Heavy Rain, well, outside of Sony execs....


The game has been in development in one form or another since 2006 and it's considered a big budget game.  So I have to ask you, why aren't you holding it up to the same standard as Mass Effect 2 and Uncharted 2?

Cost has nothing to do with appeal or potential audience, that's why.

I don't think it makes sense myself, but clearly you could spend $100 Million on a game or film that due to it's content was hugely niche in appeal and it wouldn't make sense to compare it to a title designed to have mass appeal (the high cost simply means you're chances of making a profit are not too good).

Heavy Rain is a niche title IMO whichever way you slice it, unless it manages to 'cross over' due to reviews/word of mouth, and therefore there's no sensible point comparing it to anything other than niche titles until we see how it performs over 4 to 5 weeks to see how front loaded it looks and whether it does manage to break out somewhat to be more generally appealing.

As for ME2 I don't see why its a surprise it's below Uncharted 2, ME2 itself represents a genre with (in my opinion) a smaller potential demand base than Uncharted 2.  ME2 is selling better than ME1 ( so far as I'm aware) which is what Bioware will be looking at I guess and probably a better relfection of how ME2 is performing relative to its genre.  Uncharted 2 has just won yet another bunch of awards, including some BAFTA's I believe, which will contribute to its legs due to continued awareness plus re-enforcement of the game as the best of 2009 overall.

Let's all be chill.



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Legend11 said:
Demotruk said:
Legend11 said:
What?  He's the one that called out another game, I'm just asking if he's going to hold Heavy Rain to the same standard and I guess apparently not from his response.

Why would Heavy Rain be held to the standard of Mass Effect 2 or Uncharted 2? Nobody expected that much from Heavy Rain, well, outside of Sony execs....


The game has been in development in one form or another since 2006 and it's considered a big budget game.  So I have to ask you, why aren't you holding it up to the same standard as Mass Effect 2 and Uncharted 2?  I'm curious, do you hold Alan Wake up to the same standard as those two games?

Same reason U2 and ME2 aren't compared to MW2 and Halo

Certain games have certain appeals and sales expectations, Heavy Rain is considered a niche title thats why sales are impressive

AW can be comparable to U2 because its an action thriller



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Reasonable said:
Legend11 said:
Demotruk said:
Legend11 said:
What?  He's the one that called out another game, I'm just asking if he's going to hold Heavy Rain to the same standard and I guess apparently not from his response.

Why would Heavy Rain be held to the standard of Mass Effect 2 or Uncharted 2? Nobody expected that much from Heavy Rain, well, outside of Sony execs....


The game has been in development in one form or another since 2006 and it's considered a big budget game.  So I have to ask you, why aren't you holding it up to the same standard as Mass Effect 2 and Uncharted 2?

Cost has nothing to do with appeal or potential audience, that's why.

I don't think it makes sense myself, but clearly you could spend $100 Million on a game or film that due to it's content was hugely niche in appeal and it wouldn't make sense to compare it to a title designed to have mass appeal (the high cost simply means you're chances of making a profit are not too good).

Heavy Rain is a niche title IMO whichever way you slice it, unless it manages to 'cross over' due to reviews/word of mouth, and therefore there's no sensible point comparing it to anything other than niche titles until we see how it performs over 4 to 5 weeks to see how front loaded it looks and whether it does manage to break out somewhat to be more generally appealing.

As for ME2 I don't see why its a surprise it's below Uncharted 2, ME2 itself represents a genre with (in my opinion) a smaller potential demand base than Uncharted 2.  ME2 is selling better than ME1 ( so far as I'm aware) which is what Bioware will be looking at I guess and probably a better relfection of how ME2 is performing relative to its genre.  Uncharted 2 has just won yet another bunch of awards, including some BAFTA's I believe, which will contribute to its legs due to continued awareness plus re-enforcement of the game as the best of 2009 overall.

Let's all be chill.

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Reasonable said:
Legend11 said:
Demotruk said:
Legend11 said:
What?  He's the one that called out another game, I'm just asking if he's going to hold Heavy Rain to the same standard and I guess apparently not from his response.

Why would Heavy Rain be held to the standard of Mass Effect 2 or Uncharted 2? Nobody expected that much from Heavy Rain, well, outside of Sony execs....


The game has been in development in one form or another since 2006 and it's considered a big budget game.  So I have to ask you, why aren't you holding it up to the same standard as Mass Effect 2 and Uncharted 2?

Cost has nothing to do with appeal or potential audience, that's why.

I don't think it makes sense myself, but clearly you could spend $100 Million on a game or film that due to it's content was hugely niche in appeal and it wouldn't make sense to compare it to a title designed to have mass appeal (the high cost simply means you're chances of making a profit are not too good).

Heavy Rain is a niche title IMO whichever way you slice it, unless it manages to 'cross over' due to reviews/word of mouth, and therefore there's no sensible point comparing it to anything other than niche titles until we see how it performs over 4 to 5 weeks to see how front loaded it looks and whether it does manage to break out somewhat to be more generally appealing.

As for ME2 I don't see why its a surprise it's below Uncharted 2, ME2 itself represents a genre with (in my opinion) a smaller potential demand base than Uncharted 2.  ME2 is selling better than ME1 ( so far as I'm aware) which is what Bioware will be looking at I guess and probably a better relfection of how ME2 is performing relative to its genre.  Uncharted 2 has just won yet another bunch of awards, including some BAFTA's I believe, which will contribute to its legs due to continued awareness plus re-enforcement of the game as the best of 2009 overall.

Let's all be chill.


Just to correct a misconception in this thread, Mass Effect 2 on one system is charting below Uncharted 2, but if you combine the sales of both the PC and 360 versions then Mass Effect 2 is ahead of Uncharted 2 and that isn't even counting digital downloads of the game.

 



Legend11 said:
Reasonable said:
Legend11 said:
Demotruk said:
Legend11 said:
What?  He's the one that called out another game, I'm just asking if he's going to hold Heavy Rain to the same standard and I guess apparently not from his response.

Why would Heavy Rain be held to the standard of Mass Effect 2 or Uncharted 2? Nobody expected that much from Heavy Rain, well, outside of Sony execs....


The game has been in development in one form or another since 2006 and it's considered a big budget game.  So I have to ask you, why aren't you holding it up to the same standard as Mass Effect 2 and Uncharted 2?

Cost has nothing to do with appeal or potential audience, that's why.

I don't think it makes sense myself, but clearly you could spend $100 Million on a game or film that due to it's content was hugely niche in appeal and it wouldn't make sense to compare it to a title designed to have mass appeal (the high cost simply means you're chances of making a profit are not too good).

Heavy Rain is a niche title IMO whichever way you slice it, unless it manages to 'cross over' due to reviews/word of mouth, and therefore there's no sensible point comparing it to anything other than niche titles until we see how it performs over 4 to 5 weeks to see how front loaded it looks and whether it does manage to break out somewhat to be more generally appealing.

As for ME2 I don't see why its a surprise it's below Uncharted 2, ME2 itself represents a genre with (in my opinion) a smaller potential demand base than Uncharted 2.  ME2 is selling better than ME1 ( so far as I'm aware) which is what Bioware will be looking at I guess and probably a better relfection of how ME2 is performing relative to its genre.  Uncharted 2 has just won yet another bunch of awards, including some BAFTA's I believe, which will contribute to its legs due to continued awareness plus re-enforcement of the game as the best of 2009 overall.

Let's all be chill.


Just to correct a misconception in this thread, Mass Effect 2 on one system is charting below Uncharted 2, but if you combine the sales of both the PC and 360 versions then Mass Effect 2 is ahead of Uncharted 2 and that isn't even counting digital downloads of the game.

 

I was clearly referring to the appeal of ME genre on console vs a combat orientated TPS (although I guess ME2 is arguably a lot closer to a combat oriented TPS than your average RPG).  On console I'd be surprised if a game like Uncharted - or even an average FPS on 360 - didn't sell more than ME2, and I was clearly pointing out this is no insult to ME2 as it's selling very well for its genre and tracking ahead of ME1 which a great performance.

You are simply too touchy about 360 exclusive titles my friend - mind you, there are those who are too touchy about PS3 exclusive titles so I understand it's hard not to respond.

 



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