Wow... PS3 undertracked much :O

i reckon it will be all over the news,here on the beeb anyway,

egg on face and heads will have to roll,lol

the panic at sony HQ must be quite hilarious at the mo,nintendo and microsoft HQ enjoying themselves,haha

If I owned any Sony shares I would be selling them right now, and buying them again tomorrow if this gets automagically fixed...

At midnight GMT there will either be cries of joy or epic meltdowns.

Nice lol, +cred.

Can anyone tell me why the slim models are not affected?

But it is. As i said you can wrap it up and run damage control all you like but the fact is a hardware fault inside the older consoles has meant you can't use it, thus it is a hardware fault.

It is the same as if you have a car and have a warrenty. If your driving along on a busy road that has slightly fallen into dis-repair and you drive your car over a pot hole and get a puncture who's fault is that? Your fault because you should not have been there or the companys fault? Obviously punctures happen all the time, it is your fault. If your listening to your cars built in sat nav and all of a sudden it turns off and the electronics frazzle who is to blame? You for using it or the electronics? That would be covered by the warrenty and would be classified as a hardware fault.

It is the exact samething with this with the PS3. Right now the PS3's have a bug in them which meant they cop out due to a software error in the system. Because it does not work is it your fault for playing it and it has been worn out hence why it has broken? Or is it the companies fault for not testing the machine to see if this would happen which meant a unknown bug remained through production now resulting in you not being able to play your machine?

In a court of law they would say it was the companies fault because through no fault of your own the hardware became disabled/broken by issues relating to the actual hardware itself.

Thus it is a hardware fault

Will those people actually have a problem? Yes their internal clocks would have been messed up like everyone elses but from what I've read only games with trophies are having any difficulty. If the PS3 was never connected to the internet then those people would never have downloaded the firmware update enabling trophies and so may be able to play games completely unaffected. That's just pure speculation on my part but perhaps the problem isn't as big for offline consoles (those permantly not connected to the internet anyway) as first thought?

So you don't even read the things you post? its the thing you just posted lmfao..

I don't know, things like the RRoD you can say shit happens.  Despite what people say, it isn't a guaranteed for every console.  This problem is a guaranteed for every person that owns a certain model.  That is an epic fuck-up, especially when it's something as simple as calculating the leap year.

Anyways, I'll be curious how they deliver this update.  The bug happens before you sign into the PSN which makes it so you can't sign into the PSN.  If you can't sign into the PSN, you can't download the update.

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NOTE-- saying this is an epic fuck-up isn't me saying OMG BOYCOTT SONY!!!!1!!!, it's just a pretty giant fuck-up.  I'm pretty confindent they'll get it fixed within the next 24 hours, I'm just curious to see how they fix it and I'm curious to see what they're do to appease the angry masses of people.

posted: in the response section of The CNN article:

March 1st, 2010 12:40 pm ET

From http://www.ign.com:
Might be old news, but thanks to a certain hardware/software guru, and from various of sources and efnet they are able to at least give the letdown why this problem is happening. Quoted.

Well the gist is that the ARM SYSCON CPU that is used to power up the front panel of the ps3, that is responsible for doing things like sleep mode, eject, RTC etc. Is an old batch that sony picked up from the shelf like other manufacturers that has that calendar year bug regarding feburary 29th on certain periods. Causing the ps3 system clock and the real time clock to desync, messing up security measures like Digital Rights management software and sometimes games that relies on clocks for whatever reason. As well as signing up to the playstation network... This CPU is always on even when your PS3 isn't plugged
This problem is also happening with various of test Ps3 models, particulary the ones that has the emotion engine cpu/gpu for ps2 dev.

This is the one of the same type of CPUs that is powering up mobile devices like zune and blackberries, they have been affected with this bug, so they done some software patches. A syscon update can also fix this problem

The Slims ps3s aren't affected because they use a newer up to date revision on the syscon cpu that fixes this bug.

A quick way to fix this is to remove the RTC battery for at least 5-10 min and plug it back in, you will see the date and time reset, and voila...

BTW all this was quoted from some ps3 hardware gurus and tested by various of peeps on efnet, all thanks to them for the information

One cannot wait to hear Sony's excuse for this one, They might play innocent for using off the shelve parts and blame manufacturers
Date Edited:3/1/2010 4:57:54 AM (2 edits total) edited by: Fishcake21