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joeorc said:
Hyruken said:
joeorc said:
Hyruken said:
Also

If EVERY Fat Ps3 has been affected.

How will those people who don't have it connected to the internet (which seems a lot) fix the problem if it is fixed via a update?

Seriously what an epic fuck up.

a CD disc could be sent out with the BIOS fix on the CD


A CD disc....

Man i feel sorry for those people if they can't play their consoles until they get that!

As for the hardware failure thingy i was just kidding.

However this would have to be counted as a hardware failure seeing as it is the machines themself that are broken, it is nothing to do with PSN as millions of people are not even connected to it and have the same problem.

To me a hardware fault simply means that, something that stops it from working. Can wrap it up in whatever you like but that is the reality of it. if something is not working then it is broken is it not?

no it's not the same thing, if your system can still be turned on and still play some game's and still use the internet. than that is quite the opposite of you turn the unit on and nothing can be even used. this is not the same thing. plus the fact that Sony is stating not to use it until they get the fix is so you don't loose or get corrupted data that connot or may not be be stored correctly. that's not the same AS something like thew yload, or the rrod.

completly not the same thing


But it is. As i said you can wrap it up and run damage control all you like but the fact is a hardware fault inside the older consoles has meant you can't use it, thus it is a hardware fault.

It is the same as if you have a car and have a warrenty. If your driving along on a busy road that has slightly fallen into dis-repair and you drive your car over a pot hole and get a puncture who's fault is that? Your fault because you should not have been there or the companys fault? Obviously punctures happen all the time, it is your fault. If your listening to your cars built in sat nav and all of a sudden it turns off and the electronics frazzle who is to blame? You for using it or the electronics? That would be covered by the warrenty and would be classified as a hardware fault.

It is the exact samething with this with the PS3. Right now the PS3's have a bug in them which meant they cop out due to a software error in the system. Because it does not work is it your fault for playing it and it has been worn out hence why it has broken? Or is it the companies fault for not testing the machine to see if this would happen which meant a unknown bug remained through production now resulting in you not being able to play your machine?

In a court of law they would say it was the companies fault because through no fault of your own the hardware became disabled/broken by issues relating to the actual hardware itself.

Thus it is a hardware fault