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qmoney88 said:
jesus kung fu magic said:
qmoney88 said:
jesus kung fu magic said:

He wouldnt be such a lame character if all he was doing was just bashing heads.....in GOW1 I wouldnt consider him lame as he had a legitimate purpose for what he was doing and you liked him for it.

In GOW2 however , it just felt like a showcase for violence as there was no story holding it together......it felt like torture porn to be honest(ala the SAW movie series)

 


You must not have payed attention then, there was story holding the game together, its the main reason for me and many other fans to continue pushing on.

80% of the game is you going to irrelevent places to find the sisters of fate.....I hardly consider that a story.

It provides substance and a nice backdrop to the story, visiting these places tells a story of its own, its not just simply the words that are spoken.

Please enlighten me as to the story in each of those places......as they have nothing to do with the main plot.



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Severance said:
gamings_best said:

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most boring mega generic supa lame character I've seen, shit it would 10 Rico's to best this guys.

i always wondered if halo was actually going to be a bike/kart racing game before they thought of making it an RTS (to FPS)

While I don't think Master Chief is the most interesting character ever, I think he's better than Kratos.  Seeing screenshots of Halo I don't get flooded of him doing these macho things over and over, I get screenshots of just him.  He's intriguing.  Kratos is just one-dimensional point and kill.  Bor-ing.

You break any character down into simple stereotypes.  Nathan Drake is your general Indianna Jones adventurer.  Does that make him boring?  Hell no, he's great!  He has personality and doesn't make you bored of the great things he does.

Even Mario, yeah, he's a stupid stupid character who is even more one-dimensional than Kratos and Master Chief combined but that works for him.  I see trailers for a Mario game and see him drilling through a planet or jumping on something and I think wow, that looks fun.

When I see a trailer for God of War III, I see Kratos swinging his swords killing these mammoth creatures in giant amazing brutal ways and he just makes it boring.



jesus kung fu magic said:

He wouldnt be such a lame character if all he was doing was just bashing heads.....in GOW1 I wouldnt consider him lame as he had a legitimate purpose for what he was doing and you liked him for it.

In GOW2 however , it just felt like a showcase for violence as there was no story holding it together......it felt like torture porn to be honest(ala the SAW movie series)

 

I DO COMPLETELY AGREE with you
there was a problem in the story in GoW2 and I felt that Kratos was just asskicking everybody for the fun
I mean : why this guy is attacking Rhodes ? just for the fun ?
Neverthless, the first game has not this problem and since this thread is based, mainly, on the first game,
I still support the fact that Kratos is not lame.

BTW, in GoW2, I would not call Kratos lame, I would have chosen irrespectfull, bad, immoral, selfish
but not lame/boring : that is REALLY the main problem that i have with this thread



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Just a few things to make things clear:

  1. The last God of War game I played was God of War when it was new.  I am talking about trailers, gifs, pics, ect.  I am saying he isn't interesting in those.
  2. Yes, there are many more uninteresting characters.  I get it.
  3. Yes, this is an opinion.  My first response was aimed more at how stupid it is that I have to explain that this is merely an opinion.  I really don't care if you disagree with me, though I'd love to know why and I'll even try to give counterpoints the best I can as long as you're not a tool.
  4. I think Kratos is lame because they try to just advertise him as so in your face it just makes him boring.  Other iconic characters (Master Chief, Mario, Nathan Drake) can all be broken down just as much, some more than others, but they still find some way to make them interesting even just in trailers.  This isn't the case with Kratos.


twesterm said:
Severance said:
gamings_best said:

SECOND TO NONE

most boring mega generic supa lame character I've seen, shit it would 10 Rico's to best this guys.

i always wondered if halo was actually going to be a bike/kart racing game before they thought of making it an RTS (to FPS)

While I don't think Master Chief is the most interesting character ever, I think he's better than Kratos.  Seeing screenshots of Halo I don't get flooded of him doing these macho things over and over, I get screenshots of just him.  He's intriguing.  Kratos is just one-dimensional point and kill.  Bor-ing.

You break any character down into simple stereotypes.  Nathan Drake is your general Indianna Jones adventurer.  Does that make him boring?  Hell no, he's great!  He has personality and doesn't make you bored of the great things he does.

Even Mario, yeah, he's a stupid stupid character who is even more one-dimensional than Kratos and Master Chief combined but that works for him.  I see trailers for a Mario game and see him drilling through a planet or jumping on something and I think wow, that looks fun.

When I see a trailer for God of War III, I see Kratos swinging his swords killing these mammoth creatures in giant amazing brutal ways and he just makes it boring.

lol Hypocrit! Master chief? ALL he does is shoot aliens who come in hordes and die in hordes.... :D Let's face it...you don't like the game gow...you haven't even played it properly, yet your stating the character is boring when the game involves puzzles, mythology, HUGE scale battles etc....again this threads existence itself is a joke



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being bad ass is lame?

I guess Gears of War is a lame game.



M.U.G.E.N said:
twesterm said:
Severance said:
gamings_best said:

SECOND TO NONE

most boring mega generic supa lame character I've seen, shit it would 10 Rico's to best this guys.

i always wondered if halo was actually going to be a bike/kart racing game before they thought of making it an RTS (to FPS)

While I don't think Master Chief is the most interesting character ever, I think he's better than Kratos.  Seeing screenshots of Halo I don't get flooded of him doing these macho things over and over, I get screenshots of just him.  He's intriguing.  Kratos is just one-dimensional point and kill.  Bor-ing.

You break any character down into simple stereotypes.  Nathan Drake is your general Indianna Jones adventurer.  Does that make him boring?  Hell no, he's great!  He has personality and doesn't make you bored of the great things he does.

Even Mario, yeah, he's a stupid stupid character who is even more one-dimensional than Kratos and Master Chief combined but that works for him.  I see trailers for a Mario game and see him drilling through a planet or jumping on something and I think wow, that looks fun.

When I see a trailer for God of War III, I see Kratos swinging his swords killing these mammoth creatures in giant amazing brutal ways and he just makes it boring.

lol Hypocrit! Master chief? ALL he does is shoot aliens who come in hordes and die in hordes.... :D Let's face it...you don't like the game gow...you haven't even played it properly, yet your stating the character is boring when the game involves puzzles, mythology, HUGE scale battles etc....again this threads existence itself is a joke

I'm pretty sure the difference is that Master Chief is actually kinda mysterious.  Not sure, i've never played single player Halo so maybe you meet his grandmother or something... but Kratos, you know everything about him... it's just kinda boring and an excuse to kill stuff.  Which isn't bad persay, but it certaintly isn't award winning or make him that interesting.

While master chief... I don't know anything about him.  His story may also suck and just be a justification to kill aliens... like the old "my parents died when i was young... because of the ALIENS!"  You don't really know though, and sometimes not knowing is more interesting then knowing.

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The not knowing is often better then knowing.



Funny thing, those are the type threads Twesterm used to closed for being nothing but useless just having no point.

Just one day after we got amazing videos of this great game, you decide to make such a thread,

imagine if I had made this after the Nintendo Summit:

Samus is boring

Waht do you think would happen?



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letsdance said:
being bad ass is lame?

I guess Gears of War is a lame game.

The difference with Gears is at least when they're showing me the characters they at least try to present more than one side of them.

Remember those stupid Gears commercials with that song everything flipped thier shit over?  In that case they at least tried to give him some soul, not constant locus thrashing.  Don't me wrong, I thought those commercials were a joke and the emotional parts in Gears 2 were both utter jokes (lol MARIAAAAAA!) but it's at least not that constant in your face crap.

I think my biggest problem with Kratos is they try to make him XTREME and anytime anything is described XTREME and in your face I lose interest.



psrock said:
Funny thing, those are the type threads Twesterm used to closed for being nothing but useless just having no point.

Just one day after we got amazing videos of this great game, you decide to make such a thread,

imagine if I had made this after the Nintendo Summit:

Samus is boring

Waht do you think would happen?

Good thing I'm not a mod anymore!

(I was actually thinking about that after I made the thread :-p)