What? No it can't, DS software sells vastly more than PSP software. Is that somehow in dispute? Sure, cherry pick some games that did well on PSP and not as well on DS, but the VAST MAJORITY of software sells better on DS.

From the Source's article on 2009:

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Square-Enix came really close to releasing the best selling DS game in 2009. Pokemon Platinum beat Dragon Quest IX by less than 10% to become the top selling DS game of the year. Nonetheless, fifteen of the top twenty DS games in 2009 were made by Nintendo. DS had 11 games top 2m units in 2009, and 16 games top 1.5m units – the most of any platform currently selling. In 2010, at least nine of the games above should top 1,000,000 units again, and almost every game on the list will have a shot at topping 500,000 units once again.

The PSP had a pretty slow year for software, with only eight games topping 500,000 units (against over 50 on X360 and DS) in 2009. Nonetheless, for top titles in Japan, the PSP can still be quite profitable as development costs are low. Still, the top of the PSP market is shrinking rapidly – it’s just about impossible to make a game that will sell over a million units on PSP in a single year.  Monster Hunter Freedom Unite, the only PSP game made by a third party to top 1m units in 2009, would fall into the bottom half of the top twenty lists for DS, Wii, PS3 or X360. For publishers like EA and Activision who don’t really have access to the fertile Japanese market, the best sales you can realistically really hope for on PSP is ~500,000 units going by the list above.

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And did you just try to use the fact that shovelware bombed as an argument? Is shovelware *supposed* to sell now?

I know that my post might offended some, but I was only pointing out that the PSP can sell software, it actually does, its not just a Monster Hunter Box (if the game is the correct one and advertised properly it will do nice numbers ). Its not really cherry picking either, except maybe CoD... all the other MAJOR yearly franchises never once sold more on the DS then on the PSP. Thats a fact, and these are the games that still hold the PSP in the race ( or at least an important aspect).

Also, shovelware dont need to sell IMO, tough its arguable that it needs to sell for the devs to be bale to make quality games, but the fact is that DS 3rd party support is shrinking, and Ubisoft is not the first to point that out. The sole reason that my vote went to the negative one, is because I trully bealive that qulity 3rd party Wii games simply sell far less then what they should. Why I choose the DS... well its the only handheld in the console war, besides the PSP.

Yes, I do know that the DS is far more successfull then the PSP, but there is plenty of space for both on the market, and the PSP managed to push some serious software numbers even with the rampant piracy and loss of support in the firrst couple of years.

And 2 things that on this site are always forgotten: PSP development cost is low, dev kits are offered for free, and I do bealive that Sony is making some offers for 3rd party devs, otherwise games like Bloodlines wouldent land on the system, and the fact that 54 million PSP owners can log onto the PS store any day and buy a game online, and seeing how many games are sold for mobile phones and the Ipod Touch/Iphone... I have to say, that can be a goldmine for some, and I do bealive that it can make or break the sales for a PSP game.

Another day another Sony VP who'll be easily replaced in the next few years, games like MH3 and DQIX have proved him wrong before he even made this statement.

That did not help at all

I never knew it was that close.

Add the 360 and you see why developers go HD.

Install base says hello...But they still sell more on Wii.

I remember one of Finish companys saying like this:Our Barbie game outsold GTA Chinatown Wars almost by million..Certain games sell on certain system.

Wow, Sony are such Sony fanboys... >_

What does install base have to do with anything? What matters is total numbers of software. The good feeling of having a high attach rate isn't going to encourage a publisher to develop on that platform. Here's the average sales for games when you exclude ALL first party titles and one exceptional HD title:

It looks pretty good even if you do include MW2:

Looking at the above, the whole "third party games don't sell on Wii" becomes a nonsense.

PS. I hope you're aware of how fantastic that game sold on the Sony portable.

How many developers and companies are going to keep lying about the Wii selling 3rd party software?

I hope everyone realizes that this is an argument Nintendo can't win. It's certainly not the first iteration of the argument, either - first, Nintendo was going to be doomed. When they seized the lead, the argument changed to that they don't sell software. When they overtook the competition in that, the argument changed to that they don't sell third party software. When NPD said that they overtook even the 360 in North America, the argument changed to that they don't sell more third party software than the competitors combined. And if they sell more total 3rd party software than the PS360 combined, the argument will change yet again, likely to that they don't sell more software than the PSPS360, or that they're not selling _the right_ third party games.

If Nintendo were to meet their definition of selling third party games, the argument would just change again, as it always has. That's because it's easier to arbitrarily redefine success to exclude the Wii than for the industry at large to admit they were wrong about it.

Im baffled how he can say that in regards to the DS...