I know they don't buy half-assed bullshit.

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=35999
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=28493
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=35050
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=36286
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=25825

Although, they are buying some non-"half-assed bullshit" stuff...

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=32591
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=27610
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=36473
http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24691

Anyway, this isn't about what games the Wii audience likes. This is about how 3rd parties will try to exploit Wii HD + Everything else.

what the hell? the thread title should clearly be about Rubin's crazy ideas rather than a random Pachter quote.

this was one weird episode. after loving Rubin in episode 1 i heartedly disagreed with him in episode 2

Shane, who i hardly ever like, seemed to be able to read my mind and say exactly what i wnated to say.


Also i wanna say that i now officially love michael Pachter, he is a frikiin legend


Rubin: 'one parent has the money to sen their kid to soccer camp and you dont, is that fair? no

Pachter:'is it fair that i have my job when everyone watching knows more about the industry than I do? no!'


best quote of the entire thing

It's the piracy and used game sales that has caused this DLC and nickel-n-diming with microtransactions and whatnot. All these awkward and artificial business models.

The only model I support is a platform without piracy like the PS3, where you only release games $60 that are not just digital download but also available with a hard-box at retail. Only in rare cases should they make DLC to big games (small arcade games are different, I don't mind them being DLC).

Xbox should try to make a console next gen that can't be pirated.

I also hate the model where it starts with a free game and then you upgrade or get additional content through micro-transactions.

I also suppert measures to stop sales of used games.

I meant in terms of the "core" games. Fitness games don't really have a need for DLC do they (maybe more excercises)?

The whole Wii HD thing is a farce. If Nintendo was on a near equal playing field in terms of power, they would probably be neglected just like they were from 1996-2006. The support would be just as lame.

The only way they can stop sales of used games, outside of some really shady practices of intimidation against retailers, would be more pointless DLC, codes embedded with the games

Publishers and developers just have to man up and make games that are worth buying new and keeping, or stop complaining.

It seems to me that developers want consoles to be like the PC; albeit, without the piracy.

I hope their dreams are crushed.

Jason Rubin: "Our games are so awesome that people aren't buying more of our awesome games so let's charge them by the hour to play."

Furniture manufacturers have got it all wrong. How are they supposed to make money if people only buy a new bed every 10 years?

Isn't it better to charge people for each hour they sleep?

It'll be good for the industry.

I'm fine with most alternative business models (subscriptions, episodic content, for-pay downloadable extras) as long as there is value in what is being charged for; and (for the most part) I find that currently the value most companies offer in this way is very poor.

Using Mario Kart as an example, if Nintendo released a full Mario Kart Game and every month to 6 weeks packaged a new circuit with a couple of additional racers and a few new carts together and sell it for $5 I would see value in this and I could imagine spending more than the game on downloadable content over time. In contrast, if Nintendo reacted like a lot of companies will approach this they would release half a game and then charge $5 for each track, $1 for each new racer and $1 for each cart; which I don't see value in and am (somewhat) insulted by.

I think codes are cool. That could stop used game sales.

You are thinking wrong when you say they should make games with even more longevity. They do that already but the problem with those games is that players keep playing them instead of buying new games.

Basically it's unreasonable of consumers to demand games for only $60 that gives them several hundreds of hours without paying any extra.