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How do you want to die?

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room414 said:
zexen_lowe said:

Why not? What I see, what I sense now is a result of my body functioning. If my body stops working forever, then I simply won't perceive anything again...thus, nothing

is that all we are? just a bag of bones? there's nothing more to us?

Pretty much. Looking at things from a physical point of view, what happens when we die? We're either thrown in a large wooden box and put underground to rot, or we're burnt to a crisp to sit on someone's fireplace mantle. I'll be honest, neither of those sound pleasant. But either way, our physical meaningness is over. It is nothing to us, because we're not there for it!

Spiritually, of course, nobody really knows. I'm of the same school of thought: you're dead, game over. Others may believe reincarnation, but that's a different life entirely. You are not who you were prior, and thus, for that life, there is nothing more. Another belief is having your spirit sent up or down to relax/repent. In one case, you stay in your final state, with nothing new, almost as though time has stopped. The other way, you're stuck reliving the past, and not experiencing anything new. But either way, without your body to give you the stimulations, it would be meaningless, and thus, may as well be nothing.

Anyway, the actual topic. I'm another proponent of death by sleep. It would be peaceful, but I don't really want it to be slow. Just lay me down to sleep, a universally peaceful position, and let me pass away like that. This way, there's no suffering or ill effects on my last moments, and I don't have to worry about lamenting over it.



-dunno001

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death means the end of life, there is no after death as you are no longer alive.



Personally, I think there is something after life. I don't know what, but I think there is something.

And death only describes the end of our physical selves. Some may consider it to describe the absolute end of life and existence for a person, but fact is, we don't know.



zexen_lowe said:
room414 said:

is that all we are? just a bag of bones? there's nothing more to us?

I think we're just a bag of cells more than just a bag of bones, but that's my opinion

exactly



                                

@Zexen

"I didn't ask for anything. It's him that can't tolerate my statement. Someone said something I may not necessarily agree with, but I never felt the need to quote him and cause a stir. Why would I? Just because I don't agree we'd be judged after life doesn't mean I need to quote him, disagree and cause controversy. Obviously, he needed to"

So wait let me get this straight.....if I go to a wii thread and say "the wii is shit", its not me who is derailing the thread but everyone else who responds to me? Ok gotcha mr.mod



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Zexen nobody is trying to flamebait you, stop subtly threatening people gees.



 

dunno001 said:
room414 said:
zexen_lowe said:

Why not? What I see, what I sense now is a result of my body functioning. If my body stops working forever, then I simply won't perceive anything again...thus, nothing

is that all we are? just a bag of bones? there's nothing more to us?

Pretty much. Looking at things from a physical point of view, what happens when we die? We're either thrown in a large wooden box and put underground to rot, or we're burnt to a crisp to sit on someone's fireplace mantle. I'll be honest, neither of those sound pleasant. But either way, our physical meaningness is over. It is nothing to us, because we're not there for it!

Spiritually, of course, nobody really knows. I'm of the same school of thought: you're dead, game over. Others may believe reincarnation, but that's a different life entirely. You are not who you were prior, and thus, for that life, there is nothing more. Another belief is having your spirit sent up or down to relax/repent. In one case, you stay in your final state, with nothing new, almost as though time has stopped. The other way, you're stuck reliving the past, and not experiencing anything new. But either way, without your body to give you the stimulations, it would be meaningless, and thus, may as well be nothing.

Anyway, the actual topic. I'm another proponent of death by sleep. It would be peaceful, but I don't really want it to be slow. Just lay me down to sleep, a universally peaceful position, and let me pass away like that. This way, there's no suffering or ill effects on my last moments, and I don't have to worry about lamenting over it.

how do you come to the conclusion that it would be meaningless?

when you dream you don't experience your physical senses and your dreams aren't meaningless



                                
room414 said:
dunno001 said:
room414 said:
zexen_lowe said:

Why not? What I see, what I sense now is a result of my body functioning. If my body stops working forever, then I simply won't perceive anything again...thus, nothing

is that all we are? just a bag of bones? there's nothing more to us?

Pretty much. Looking at things from a physical point of view, what happens when we die? We're either thrown in a large wooden box and put underground to rot, or we're burnt to a crisp to sit on someone's fireplace mantle. I'll be honest, neither of those sound pleasant. But either way, our physical meaningness is over. It is nothing to us, because we're not there for it!

Spiritually, of course, nobody really knows. I'm of the same school of thought: you're dead, game over. Others may believe reincarnation, but that's a different life entirely. You are not who you were prior, and thus, for that life, there is nothing more. Another belief is having your spirit sent up or down to relax/repent. In one case, you stay in your final state, with nothing new, almost as though time has stopped. The other way, you're stuck reliving the past, and not experiencing anything new. But either way, without your body to give you the stimulations, it would be meaningless, and thus, may as well be nothing.

Anyway, the actual topic. I'm another proponent of death by sleep. It would be peaceful, but I don't really want it to be slow. Just lay me down to sleep, a universally peaceful position, and let me pass away like that. This way, there's no suffering or ill effects on my last moments, and I don't have to worry about lamenting over it.

how do you come to the conclusion that it would be meaningless?

when you dream you don't experience your physical senses and your dreams aren't meaningless

Actually, when dreaming, you do experience physical senses. Some of them are a removed-from-body sort, but the fact that you have a body capable of feeling them is what matters. Some believe that if you die in your dream, you've died in real life. I'm not here to argue either side of that, though, as it's tangental to my point. I'll use me for a case exhibit. I've had dreams of driving a car over a bridge, then something happens, and the car goes over. I can feel myself falling, waking right before the car hits the water. I am now awake, and can feel my body adjusting from what it thinks was falling.

There are other physical stimulations that can happen in your sleep, of course, but some of them probably aren't suitable for the forums. But all of this , while dreaming, needs the physical body to act upon.



-dunno001

-On a quest for the truly perfect game; I don't think it exists...

zexen_lowe said:
jesus kung fu magic said:

Zexen you touched a touchy subject and you should know better than to do that......me,and apparently room414 ,believe that there is something beyond the grave......do you see the key word? Believe......just in the same sense that you believe there is nothing beyond the grave.

We all dont know what happens after we die......but yoour beliefs arent facts and to state them as such is just asking for trouble.

I didn't ask for anything. It's him that can't tolerate my statement. Someone said something I may not necessarily agree with, but I never felt the need to quote him and cause a stir. Why would I? Just because I don't agree we'd be judged after life doesn't mean I need to quote him, disagree and cause controversy. Obviously, he needed to

room414 said:

is that all we are? just a bag of bones? there's nothing more to us?

I think we're just a bag of cells more than just a bag of bones, but that's my opinion

opinion?

I thought we could prove that we are made of cells?

(there is scientific evidence I mean?)



dunno001 said:
room414 said:
dunno001 said:
room414 said:
zexen_lowe said:

Why not? What I see, what I sense now is a result of my body functioning. If my body stops working forever, then I simply won't perceive anything again...thus, nothing

is that all we are? just a bag of bones? there's nothing more to us?

Pretty much. Looking at things from a physical point of view, what happens when we die? We're either thrown in a large wooden box and put underground to rot, or we're burnt to a crisp to sit on someone's fireplace mantle. I'll be honest, neither of those sound pleasant. But either way, our physical meaningness is over. It is nothing to us, because we're not there for it!

Spiritually, of course, nobody really knows. I'm of the same school of thought: you're dead, game over. Others may believe reincarnation, but that's a different life entirely. You are not who you were prior, and thus, for that life, there is nothing more. Another belief is having your spirit sent up or down to relax/repent. In one case, you stay in your final state, with nothing new, almost as though time has stopped. The other way, you're stuck reliving the past, and not experiencing anything new. But either way, without your body to give you the stimulations, it would be meaningless, and thus, may as well be nothing.

Anyway, the actual topic. I'm another proponent of death by sleep. It would be peaceful, but I don't really want it to be slow. Just lay me down to sleep, a universally peaceful position, and let me pass away like that. This way, there's no suffering or ill effects on my last moments, and I don't have to worry about lamenting over it.

how do you come to the conclusion that it would be meaningless?

when you dream you don't experience your physical senses and your dreams aren't meaningless

Actually, when dreaming, you do experience physical senses. Some of them are a removed-from-body sort, but the fact that you have a body capable of feeling them is what matters. Some believe that if you die in your dream, you've died in real life. I'm not here to argue either side of that, though, as it's tangental to my point. I'll use me for a case exhibit. I've had dreams of driving a car over a bridge, then something happens, and the car goes over. I can feel myself falling, waking right before the car hits the water. I am now awake, and can feel my body adjusting from what it thinks was falling.

There are other physical stimulations that can happen in your sleep, of course, but some of them probably aren't suitable for the forums. But all of this , while dreaming, needs the physical body to act upon.

When you dream your body still reacts to your mind but your mind isn't stimulated by your physical senses unless you are awoken to some degree. A good example would be when you're put to sleep for surgery.

Regardless, we have no idea what a spiritual life would be. I think you're jumping to conclusions by saying it would be meaningless.