dunno001 said:
room414 said:
dunno001 said:
room414 said:
zexen_lowe said:
Why not? What I see, what I sense now is a result of my body functioning. If my body stops working forever, then I simply won't perceive anything again...thus, nothing
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is that all we are? just a bag of bones? there's nothing more to us?
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Pretty much. Looking at things from a physical point of view, what happens when we die? We're either thrown in a large wooden box and put underground to rot, or we're burnt to a crisp to sit on someone's fireplace mantle. I'll be honest, neither of those sound pleasant. But either way, our physical meaningness is over. It is nothing to us, because we're not there for it!
Spiritually, of course, nobody really knows. I'm of the same school of thought: you're dead, game over. Others may believe reincarnation, but that's a different life entirely. You are not who you were prior, and thus, for that life, there is nothing more. Another belief is having your spirit sent up or down to relax/repent. In one case, you stay in your final state, with nothing new, almost as though time has stopped. The other way, you're stuck reliving the past, and not experiencing anything new. But either way, without your body to give you the stimulations, it would be meaningless, and thus, may as well be nothing.
Anyway, the actual topic. I'm another proponent of death by sleep. It would be peaceful, but I don't really want it to be slow. Just lay me down to sleep, a universally peaceful position, and let me pass away like that. This way, there's no suffering or ill effects on my last moments, and I don't have to worry about lamenting over it.
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how do you come to the conclusion that it would be meaningless?
when you dream you don't experience your physical senses and your dreams aren't meaningless
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Actually, when dreaming, you do experience physical senses. Some of them are a removed-from-body sort, but the fact that you have a body capable of feeling them is what matters. Some believe that if you die in your dream, you've died in real life. I'm not here to argue either side of that, though, as it's tangental to my point. I'll use me for a case exhibit. I've had dreams of driving a car over a bridge, then something happens, and the car goes over. I can feel myself falling, waking right before the car hits the water. I am now awake, and can feel my body adjusting from what it thinks was falling.
There are other physical stimulations that can happen in your sleep, of course, but some of them probably aren't suitable for the forums. But all of this , while dreaming, needs the physical body to act upon.
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