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Solidar said:
albionus said:
Sqrl said:
Solidar said:

And ANY person that wants a real job HAS to have multiple degrees pal. You wouldn't understand that since you have probably never been to college.


QFT! -  I won't get in the middle of your argument but I will say this is absolutely true.  I have talked with a few of the big defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and Northrop Grummon. And the one common point is that multiple degrees are required for consideration.  I am currently back in school trying to finish up another 2 degrees.  This time for 2 Bachelors in Computer Science and the other one will probably end up being Robotic Engineering. Although I have given serious thought to looking at some of the Aerospace engineering programs but those jobs can be rediculously competitive so I am thinking a little less competetive field is a good start and work on the Aerospace degree on the side until I can finish it up and apply with a few years experience under my belt.  Plus the diverse background goes a long way.

Just a single degree (especially an associates degree) is not enough to get a solid high paying job, at least not in the tech sector.


Ahhh, a CS major.  I suspected as much when you vociferously stuck up for computer programmers.  3 degrees?!! Then you're in the same boat as me.  That's all the more impressive though seeing as you've probably never been to college.


What are you talking about? I said dallas had never been to college, not Sqrl...

I tend to skip petty insult posts so I skipped yours after the first one.  I was only going on what was in Sqrl's response so I thought it was directed at him, especially since I missed the QFT!.  I don't know about Dallas so I'll withdraw my involvement in that discussion.

 



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rocketpig said:
MikeB said:
With regard to nobody complaining, there were actually many media articles which spelled the PS2's alledged doom.

While I also remember those articles, the major difference was that the PS2 sold well right off the bat and continued to gain momentum while the PS3 obviously hasn't. The two systems are in very different positions this far into their lifecycles. 


I agree with this completely.



albionus said:
Solidar said:
albionus said:
Sqrl said:
Solidar said:

And ANY person that wants a real job HAS to have multiple degrees pal. You wouldn't understand that since you have probably never been to college.


QFT! -  I won't get in the middle of your argument but I will say this is absolutely true.  I have talked with a few of the big defense contractors like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, and Northrop Grummon. And the one common point is that multiple degrees are required for consideration.  I am currently back in school trying to finish up another 2 degrees.  This time for 2 Bachelors in Computer Science and the other one will probably end up being Robotic Engineering. Although I have given serious thought to looking at some of the Aerospace engineering programs but those jobs can be rediculously competitive so I am thinking a little less competetive field is a good start and work on the Aerospace degree on the side until I can finish it up and apply with a few years experience under my belt.  Plus the diverse background goes a long way.

Just a single degree (especially an associates degree) is not enough to get a solid high paying job, at least not in the tech sector.


Ahhh, a CS major.  I suspected as much when you vociferously stuck up for computer programmers.  3 degrees?!! Then you're in the same boat as me.  That's all the more impressive though seeing as you've probably never been to college.


What are you talking about? I said dallas had never been to college, not Sqrl...

I tend to skip petty insult posts so I skipped yours after the first one.  I was only going on what was in Sqrl's response so I thought it was directed at him, especially since I missed the QFT!.  I don't know about Dallas so I'll withdraw my involvement in that discussion.

 


First of all, I was responding to an insult post about ME.



@ rocketpig

While I also remember those articles, the major difference was that the PS2 sold well right off the bat and continued to gain momentum while the PS3 obviously hasn't. The two systems are in very different positions this far into their lifecycles.


The PS3 sells faster than the PSX did, to be honest the PS3 sells quite amazingly for a 600 dollar game console. The PS3 entry price is double that of the PS2 at the time. The PS3 sells at least as well as the much praised XBox 360 did for the same lenght of availability.

As game projects have become bigger, spanning more development time and larger development teams it's not strange the current games library doesn't significantly push the hardware potential. IMO wait until Killzone 2, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid are out before making a premature judgement.

Many future PS3 games are amongst NeoGAF's and Japanese Famitsu's most wanted game list. There's more than enough time left to release more demanding games and introduce pricedrops. The PS3 really isn't doing that bad at all.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

Blah sorry ok, I had to reread this to see where Alb was coming from. All the cross posts and people quoting someone else and talking to me and ya I was turned around and upside down there for a bit.

If I have it correct now Albonious was making a joke about a comment made by Solidar about Dallas but mistakenly thought Solidar's comment was about me. Ok even written like that it is a bit confusing...

 

All of the sudden the title of this thread seems somewhat prophetic... 



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@solidar
Wow I am off today. I'm sorry different poster I meant to ignore. I'll blame the furious cross posting also.  That and reading and posting on several forums at once.



MikeB said:
@ rocketpig

While I also remember those articles, the major difference was that the PS2 sold well right off the bat and continued to gain momentum while the PS3 obviously hasn't. The two systems are in very different positions this far into their lifecycles.


The PS3 sells faster than the PSX did, to be honest the PS3 sells quite amazingly for a 600 dollar game console. The PS3 entry price is double that of the PS2 at the time. The PS3 sells at least as well as the much praised XBox 360 did for the same lenght of availability.

As game projects have become bigger, spanning more development time and larger development teams it's not strange the current games library doesn't significantly push the hardware potential. IMO wait until Killzone 2, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid are out before making a premature judgement.

Many future PS3 games are amongst NeoGAF's and Japanese Famitsu's most wanted game list. There's more than enough time left to release more demanding games and introduce pricedrops. The PS3 really isn't doing that bad at all.

 You know there's a quote button under each person's post, right? You can hit that and don't have to type @username everytime.



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ceres said:

You know there's a quote button under each person's post, right? You can hit that and don't have to type @username everytime.


 QFT



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I have a theory that Sony put a Blu-ray player in the PS3 for the sole purpose of trying to win the HD war. I think Sony is more worried about winning that war than making the PS3 successful. Sony will make a lot more money if Blu-ray wins than they would on the PS3, no matter how successful it is. There are a lot more people that watch movies than there are people that play games. Plus, most people buy a larger library of movies than they do games...



Solidar said:
I have a theory that Sony put a Blu-ray player in the PS3 for the sole purpose of trying to win the HD war. I think Sony is more worried about winning that war than making the PS3 successful. Sony will make a lot more money if Blu-ray wins than they would on the PS3, no matter how successful it is. There are a lot more people that watch movies than there are people that play games. Plus, most people buy a larger library of movies than they do games...

It's not looking like that will go their way either.  They're in a catch-22, to win the HD war they need their video game system to sell well but including HD made it so expensive it can't sell well.  Winning the video game contest is pretty much out of reach now anyhow.