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Hus said:
this year 360 version, thats all they are talking.

Get it ?

They know damn well once Halo hits their 360 sales will go down the crapper.

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@twesterm -

"I can garuantee you that Bioshock for the PC will not sell better than the 360 version. The PC market isn't dead but it just has far too many things going against for it to be ever a major platform again or at least in this generation."

Interesting, considering that the game began as a PC project and is still coming out for PC. If the sales wouldn't be worth the time, why spend it? Apparently Irrational thought it was worth it. And Irrational has existed as a successful independent studio for many years, making only PC titles. I can't guarantee what the numbers will be in the end, but the PC version will sell. Perhaps the 360 version sells better... we'll have to wait and see.

"And please do not give me lol have you ever heard of WoW, Sims, or CS!? those are some of the major reasons PC gaming isn't dead but nothing that will make it make a comeback."

First off, there's no reason to assume that I would lol make that argument or sound that obnoxious. I've got more than half a wit to spare, and I haven't really given anyone a reason to think otherwise. That aside, maybe those are the major reasons PC gaming IS dying (assuming that it is), with so many people playing those games with no reason to stop and play a new PC game. But I'm not totally convinced it is dying; maybe it's just dead to you. I still play a ton of PC games. Hitman: Blood Money, Black and White 2, Oblivion, Rome: Total War, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey, Myst V, Thief III, Civilization 4, etc. How well these titles are selling compared to console games, I can't say, but developers would not be making these games if they weren't getting significant returns on their investments.



"Whenever you find a man who says he doesn't believe in a real Right and Wrong, you will find the same man going back on this a moment later."   -C.S. Lewis

"We all make choices... but in the end, our choices... make us."   -Andrew Ryan, Bioshock

Prediction: Wii passes 360 in US between July - September 2008. (Wii supply will be the issue to watch, and barring any freak incidents between now and then as well.) - 6/5/08; Wow, came true even earlier. Wii is a monster.

The 360 was the lead platform for Bioshock and after playing the demo I can say that it shows in that it's a showcase title for what the 360 can do. It also seems to be very geared towards console gamers and especially those on the 360. I'm not sure which version will sell more (I suspect the 360 version because of the out of control piracy situation on the PC) but either way the 360 verson more than holds it's own.



@Legend11 - You're right, apparently the 360 version was the original build. If anything, though, that strengthens my point: why would Irrational go out of their way even, and devote their entire secondary, Australian studio to the project of creating a PC version if they envisioned poor sales on the PC?

And of course the 360 demo was geared toward console gamers... The PC demo, which is coming out soon, will show how that version is geared specifically toward PC gamers.

http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/pcblowout.html

"Today I talk to the masterminds in Australia who have been working day and night to make BioShock the best shooter ever released for the PC. We discuss system requirements, graphics cards, and they talk about how they reworked the game from the bottom up to make it perfect for the PC."



"Whenever you find a man who says he doesn't believe in a real Right and Wrong, you will find the same man going back on this a moment later."   -C.S. Lewis

"We all make choices... but in the end, our choices... make us."   -Andrew Ryan, Bioshock

Prediction: Wii passes 360 in US between July - September 2008. (Wii supply will be the issue to watch, and barring any freak incidents between now and then as well.) - 6/5/08; Wow, came true even earlier. Wii is a monster.

I'm not assuming that the PC version will be unprofitable, I'm just telling you that it won't sell as well as the 360 version. Except for very special cases, PC games never do. I know Irrational was originally a PC developer but that doesn't mean that everyone will by this game for PC. Most people are buying this game because of hype and just about every piece of hype has advertised this as an XBox game over anything else.

Add onto that the fact that not a lot of people have gaming PC's (or at least people that will spend the time playing this) and you have the 360 version selling better.



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That may be so, but I guess what I'm saying is that that would be a shame, because the PC version will play better, and with Direct X 10 and a capable PC it'll look better too. I'm also banking on the idea that many of Irrational's fans are going to go out and get this game on the PC simply because it's an Irrational game, and they would have to be PC gamers to be Irrational fans. I know that personally, even if this game hadn't been hyped at all, I'd still have been just as excited when I heard about it, because I know from PC games like System Shock 2 that these people know how to do A: a shooter with actual substance to it and, B: a PC shooter.

And why wouldn't a lot of people with gaming PC's spend time playing this? This is going to be an intelligent little game... I hope people don't expect that it'll be a simple run-and-shoot experience just because its coming out on the 360, and/or because the hype has made it a mainstream title. It'll be a fast-paced experience for sure, but make no mistake that dummies will be disappointed.



"Whenever you find a man who says he doesn't believe in a real Right and Wrong, you will find the same man going back on this a moment later."   -C.S. Lewis

"We all make choices... but in the end, our choices... make us."   -Andrew Ryan, Bioshock

Prediction: Wii passes 360 in US between July - September 2008. (Wii supply will be the issue to watch, and barring any freak incidents between now and then as well.) - 6/5/08; Wow, came true even earlier. Wii is a monster.

how did the PC and X360/PS3 versions of Oblivion sell ?? The console versions have huge starts but the PC version has shown great legs in the charts.



Heeeeyyyy!!!! <Snap>

I have a feeling it'll sell better on PC.

My friend who has both PC and 360 has been asking himself which to buy it for, because it does seem geared for consoles....and it sounds like he's going to end up getting it for 360. But if he plays the PC demo, perhaps he'll change his mind...

I'm certainly getting it for PC, but I don't have a 360 anyway.



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Oblivion is one of those rare cases where the game can sell better than console versions because it was released on PC before consoles (at least pretty sure it was) and user created content makes that game better. Bioshock doesn't have either of those options to boost PC sales.

Another special case is UT3, it will sell much better on PC than the PS3. UT has a very large PC following and the user created content and creating that content is what drives almost all the sales of that game. While Irrational does have a PC following, that following isn't going to be big enough to boost sales and once again, Bioshock isn't a game where user created content is going to sell it.