Yup. Although the Xbox One is more like a Radeon 7750 which is a bit of a step down from a 7850.

Roughly. There is of course some deviation... Most PC gamers for instance will run their games at a native resolution rather than a half-assed 1600x900... And lower visual settings as a result.
That's the PC's true advantage... Choice.

The Playstation 4 and Xbox One GPU's had a "few enhancements" over the PC derivatives, the ESRAM and extra ACE units being prime examples.

But yes, they were out-dated core designs upon release... However, back then Graphics Core Next was still competitive with nVidia... That isn't the case this time around.
nVidia are a full generation ahead of AMD at the moment.

CPU's were a sticking point, but to be fair... Console manufacturers have generally prioritized graphics capabilities over CPU capabilities anyway... The Super Nintendo for example was heavily criticized for it's anemic CPU relative to it's graphics and audio capabilities.

The OG Xbox despite having a Celeron/Pentium 3 hybrid... Was not class-leading on it's release either as the PC had 2.8Ghz class CPU's vs the OG Xbox with it's 733Mhz chip.

And even the Playstation 3 with the heavily "advertised" Cell broadbrand processor... Wasn't that great of a development environment, plus could only achieve decent performance with iterative refinement floating point.

Developers just learned to build their games within the confines of the hardware they have available.
Even next-gen the 8-core Ryzen CPU's won't be class leading, they will be decent and probably one of the larger CPU performance jumps in console history.

The RTX 2080 will be mid-ranged/upper-mid range performance tier once nVidia transitions to 7nm before the next-gen consoles release.

Even the RTX 2080 is beaten by the 2080 Super, 2080 Ti and Titan RTX anyway, it's far from the best GPU on the market...

Next-gen consoles will be releasing in the same performance tier relative to the PC's high-end as the 8th gen Playstation 4 console, the Radeon 7850 was upper-mid range, but was quickly replaced by the Radeon R9 290X before the consoles dropped anyway, meaning consoles were a GPU generation behind.

Same scenario... Just replace Radeon 7850 in the Playstation 4 with RDNA 2 in the Playstation 5... And replace Radeon R9 290X with Geforce RTX 3080.

It really doesn't help that AMD is technologically a generation behind in the PC space either.

One thing is for sure, once RDNA 2 drops, nVidia cannot charge a premium for Ray Tracing unless AMD's Ray Tracing comes up short in performance and/or features.

Anyone who thinks the RTX 2080 will be minimum requirements this year is smoking crack.

The Radeon 7850 wasn't minimum requirements when the Playstation 4 released.
The Radeon x1800 wasn't minimum requirements when the Xbox 360 released.
The Geforce 3 Ti 500 wasn't the minimum requirements when the Original Xbox released...

So I think we can comfortably say that the RTX 2080 is not going to be minimum requirements when next-gen releases, the historical precedence is pretty clear on this.

In a few years the requirements will creep up, naturally.

Noted. Still resulted in a better port on Xbox One.
I would assume there would be other similar cases on the console as well.

I'm not sold yet that the consoles will actually reach the performance of a 2080. If the rumors of the new Nvidia gen are true a 3060 might actually come pretty close to the consoles.

The gpu of Series X sits almost at the very top of what you can buy right now for pc.

It's somewhere between a 2080RTX Super and the Ti, which is currently listed at over $1000.

Seeing that kind of performance in a console is insane and quite a big difference with the ps4/Xone's GTX660 that was $199 at launch and was already 2 years on the market when current gen consoles came out.  it? 

I think it will put Nvidia in quite an unusual position. Of course the RTX3*** will be a lot better but will the RTX3060, or even the RTX3070, really be that much better than the RTX2080 Super? And if so, how much will they be able to charge for it? 

But you can't even buy the Series X yet.
Don't make unfair or impossible comparisons... It's utterly pointless.

Considering there are absolutely no benchmarks, no information about the actual GPU in the Xbox One X, that is a bold claim... And one you cannot actually substantiate with evidence.

Not really.

The RTX 3060 and 3070 will be built on 7nm... Not 12nm.. Which was based on TSMC's 16nm process... Which was basically 20nm with Finfet and a few optimizations.

nVidia is having a large fundamental shift in manufacturing which will allow for a substantial increase in transistor densities... nVidia will be able to ramp up performance rather significantly.

It will be like jumping from the Geforce GTX 950 to the Geforce GTX 1060. It's a node difference 28nm vs 16nm, roughly the same die size... 227mm2 (GTX 950 was actually a larger chip!) vs 200mm2.
Yet the 1060 is able to consistently double or more the performance of the 950.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/14270/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1650-review-feat-zotac/6

That is the potential we are looking at.

If you are worried about cost... Obviously don't buy one, buy a console.
But consoles aren't going to be leading the technology race, far from it, the best graphics and performance as always... Will be on PC...

Costs are higher in the graphics space right now mostly because AMD isn't competitive with nVidia on performance or features, so nVidia can charge a premium... And so they should, they are a business.

Err... So we can't make any assumptions about console performance because we can't buy them yet, but we should take it as fact that the new RTX3060 will have double the performance? I'm also expecting a big jump with the RTX3*** gpu's, but we also don't know yet. For all we know, the RTX3060 will be pretty much equal to the RTX2080 Super, which is pretty much confirmed to be in Series X. If Nvidia decides to keep their "low" end gpu's at a similar price point as we've seen with the RTX2060, it's gonna be a hard sell for them. 

I am NOT asserting that the 3000 series will double performance.
I am asserting that there will be a SIZABLE performance increase as nVidia's available transistor budget has increased significantly with the move to 7nm.

The 3060 will be a mid range card.

That's what I'm saying. It will all come down to pricing and performance if upgrading to a RTX3060 is the better option instead of buying a next gen console. It's something that I can't remember ever happened before.

At the start of current gen it was a no brainer as you could pick up a GTX760 or a GTX970 that was cheaper than current gen consoles and had double the performance. All I'm saying is that it's a bit different this time around. I mostly play on pc and, for the first time ever, I'm honestly not sure if upgrading it will be the smartest thing to do. At least not at the beginning of the next console generation. 

Yeah, sorry, that overlap does not exist. There is no person in the world who has to decide between a GPU and a console. That's why the price debate is pointless. That's because there are a lot more important considerations driving those decisions.

Console will always be more cost efficient when it comes to raw performance. Thankfully that is the least concern for people when deciding what to buy.

That's what I'm saying. It will all come down to pricing and performance if upgrading to a RTX3060 is the better option instead of buying a next gen console. It's something that I can't remember ever happened before.

At the start of current gen it was a no brainer as you could pick up a GTX760 or a GTX970 that was cheaper than current gen consoles and had double the performance. All I'm saying is that it's a bit different this time around. I mostly play on pc and, for the first time ever, I'm honestly not sure if upgrading it will be the smartest thing to do. At least not at the beginning of the next console generation. 

You honestly believe that there could not be some people out there down on their luck and have like $500 only to spare and while they would love to go to pc first and upmost, they can see how for those $500 it might be  better to go console or get a very low end pc and get an indisputable lower experience? Maybe save and later on go pc? Some one who has small kids and cant operate a pc so must get a console for them but cant afford a pc on top of it? Please dont tell me you believe all of pc gamers have cash spilling out their wallets at all times. There are people out there who have a primary choice but just are not able to aford it. Other wise we would all be living in mansions by the beach driving Ferrari and Lamborghini. 

When the Playstation 4 launched... The Radeon 7850 become the Radeon 265. Quite literally as it's the same core.
The 260X could meet the 7850's performance level through aggressive clocks and higher bandwidth as well.

The difference a year in the PC space makes.

The Geforce 7800GT in the Playstation 3 was upper high-end... Before the Playstation 3 launched... nVidia dropped the Geforce 8800 series and pushed the Geforce 7800/7900 to the mid range.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/2116/21

The PC isn't some device that only sits at one price point.

You can buy PC's that are cheaper than an Xbox One/Playstation 4... Or you can buy a PC that is the same price as an Xbox One/Playstation 4 or you can buy a PC that is orders-of-magnitude faster and more expensive than the Xbox One or Playstation 4. It's called choice.

You can choose what games, what visual settings you wish to run at for any given hardware and budget.

That is the reason why PC's have hundreds of millions of gamers across the planet... And why a console that costs $400-$500 does't seem to be able to steal PC gamers away regardless of it's hardware.