Forums - Sony Discussion - PS4 sells through 106 million, Over 1.15 BILLION Games Sold!

colafitte said:
xl-klaudkil said:

Did a handheld ever sell more then a bill software?.

I tought only the ps2 ever did that(and now ps4)

Nah, NDS did:

Wii did:

PS1 did 962M, PS2 did 1537M and PS3 did more than 999M (really weird number, who knows, maybe it surpassed the billion too):

I can't find X360 numbers but probably was close to 1B games sold too.

So i whas right ps2 anD now ps4 are the only game systems to ever reach 1bill software sales.



 

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Nu-13 said:
CuCabeludo said:

No console will sell more than PS2. The PS2 sold so well due to the large number of third party exclusive games it had. If you wanted to play a game, even a third party game, you had no other option but PS2. Now third party exclusivity is very rare, when it happens it is timed exclusivity (usually 1 year). Also it was the cheapest dvd player on the market. But now streaming is becoming more popular than buying movies in Blu-ray.

To say no console ever will is wrong. It is a really high bar to cross but not impossible. As it stands, the hypothetical switch 2 has the best chances to do so out of consoles coming in the near future.

I don't see it happening because there are more choices to play multiplat games today compared to the first years of PS2 (which was the house of a lot of third party exclusives for a good period of time and also sold well as a cheap DVD player rather than only a console). And over the next decade cloud gaming will also see a considerable expansion, one more option to play games for the folks that don't want to invest in any gaming hardware and will prefer play on their phones, macbooks, tablets and potato machines.



Amazing milestone for an amazing console. Hope the PS5 can emulate this kind of success.



Excellent tracking by vgchartz and excellent hardware/software sales for Sony.



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Does the number include games from ps plus? Also no mention of PS Now?



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CuCabeludo said:
Nu-13 said:

To say no console ever will is wrong. It is a really high bar to cross but not impossible. As it stands, the hypothetical switch 2 has the best chances to do so out of consoles coming in the near future.

I don't see it happening because there are more choices to play multiplat games today compared to the first years of PS2 (which was the house of a lot of third party exclusives for a good period of time and also sold well as a cheap DVD player rather than only a console). And over the next decade cloud gaming will also see a considerable expansion, one more option to play games for the folks that don't want to invest in any gaming hardware and will prefer play on their phones, macbooks, tablets and potato machines.

But the switch is already on track to get relatively "close" to ps2 numbers. A switch 2 that gets even better support than the switch (and since launch, not after years) would be the first console in a long time with the potential to beat ps2.



think-man said:
Does the number include games from ps plus? Also no mention of PS Now?

Noo,psn now and psplus dont sell games.



 

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colafitte said:
yo33331 said:

I still don't think that PS4 will make only about 10M or even less after PS5 launch .. this is not PS3 .. it's not selling on the PS3 level, and is way more popular from PS3 to make just under 10M after the launch of PS5. If history is any indication and we take a look at PSP,PS2,PS1 and this that PS4 will be way cheaper than PS5 as PS3 was to PS4, PS4 should do at least around 20M after 2020, let's say 8M 2021, 5-6M 2022, 4M 2023, and 2M 2024. or some sort of it. So in total it should reach around 135-140M. PS4 can receive at least 2 more price points... and let's not forget what happened in 2009. PS2 receiver pricecut to 99$ and this helped it to sell another 20M from there on out. I am not saying that with 99 or 149 PS4 will do the same, but it will have effect. Price cuts often helps.

The only sony console to sell below 10M after the next gen launch was PS3. And this was 1 time case. Even the PSP sold more than the PS3 after it's successor launched. So I think PS4 has enough juice to reach 140M. But in no case will end up 120M lifetime.

So no, expecting 10M more or less in 2020, 5M in 2021, and then a few more years selling around 5M in total, is still the most realistic prediction. Don't be obsessed with raw selling numbers..., Sony doesn't. Sony cares only about profits and that's gonna be their main objective.

Yes, that is close to 130M. I can agree that 130M is possible outcome (although for me this is the lowest target I can agree that PS4 can make, my normal realistic one is around 140M)

As for Sony wanted to sell more units at 300$ official MSRP, yes I can agree here too. If this is really what they want then yes, PS4 will be weak selling console just like PS3 was after PS4 launch. Maybe reaching 10M or a little more after PS5 launched. But I just doubt this, that PS4 will never get price cut and sony will leave it, and stop any support for marketing and sales for it after the launch of PS5 like they did with PS3.



Great tracking for VGChartz!

1.15 billion units of software sold for the PS4 is incredible. And we still got heavy hitters like FF7, TLOU: Pt.2, Cyberpunk on the way!



think-man said:
Does the number include games from ps plus? Also no mention of PS Now?

No.

Number without included games from PSplus.
1.15 billion games bought by consumers.

Last numbers for PSnow, was 1m+ subcriptions.

Ontop of the 38.8m PSplus users,  and sony has ~40m people paying for subscriptions.
(netflix is like ~150m, if that puts things into perspective)

Xbox Live Gold, is probably ~15-20m and ~8m Gamepass subs.

PotentHerbs said:
Great tracking for VGChartz!

1.15 billion units of software sold for the PS4 is incredible. And we still got heavy hitters like FF7, TLOU: Pt.2, Cyberpunk on the way!

Im hopeing FF7R and TLoU p2, help keep sales high in 2019.
Cyberpunk probably wont hurt any either.

I'd personally put all 3 games there, on the same level as a Mario Oddessey or new Breath of the Wild Zelda.
Sony should give the PS4 a price cut, and just let it go out on a high note.

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